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That's how it went at our table, for +170. Seemed reasonable at the time, it's not normally a disaster to miss these games, at least in the club game in question. But this was a cold bottom; every other EW pair was in 4H, making ten or even eleven tricks. I kinda understand getting there if West opens a 12-14 NT or something; maybe East transfers, South sticks in 2S, West completes the transfer with a maximum/fit, and East bids the fourth, something like that...but nobody in our club plays weak NT. Was I that far out in left field, not inviting with the East hand?
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Posted 2012-July-06, 00:58
Just wanted to vent about this one:
That's how it went at our table, for +170. Seemed reasonable at the time, it's not normally a disaster to miss these games, at least in the club game in question. But this was a cold bottom; every other EW pair was in 4H, making ten or even eleven tricks. I kinda understand getting there if West opens a 12-14 NT or something; maybe East transfers, South sticks in 2S, West completes the transfer with a maximum/fit, and East bids the fourth, something like that...but nobody in our club plays weak NT. Was I that far out in left field, not inviting with the East hand?
That's how it went at our table, for +170. Seemed reasonable at the time, it's not normally a disaster to miss these games, at least in the club game in question. But this was a cold bottom; every other EW pair was in 4H, making ten or even eleven tricks. I kinda understand getting there if West opens a 12-14 NT or something; maybe East transfers, South sticks in 2S, West completes the transfer with a maximum/fit, and East bids the fourth, something like that...but nobody in our club plays weak NT. Was I that far out in left field, not inviting with the East hand?
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Posted 2012-July-06, 01:26
What does (presumably support) double mean to your partnership? If it implies values, the East hand is worth an invitation, if it might be a a flat 11 that happens to have 3 bad hearts, it's rather less clear. I would upgrade the West hand to a 15-17 NT, then East is clearly worth a heart game.
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Posted 2012-July-06, 06:57
I think you were unlucky, it's a fortuitious game that is on a club finesse anyway. I don't think I'd get there after a weak NT either.
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Posted 2012-July-06, 08:52
IMO you have a weak 2 in hearts (and a decent one with good suit
plus a probable working dia Q) but you have a weak 2 bid when you
know p has 3 card support it is hardly a huge risk to invite with 3h
this may block the opps from competing further in spades so you might
win the hand even if u go down but p has to cater to you possibly having
as little as xx KQxx Qxx xxxx when they x only you know your hand is worth
2 more tricks than that. Asking if p in on top is a great bid with good chance
of success. While this deal might have been a tad lucky to make 4h imagine
p haivng xx Axx Kxxx AKxx an you waltzing home with 4h.
Bidding only 2h here is more of a MP decision than an imp one since its only
1 board but you are still risking going against the field by not inviting (thats not
always a bad thing but most mp are won playing better than the field not merely
guessing right in the bidding (ie bidding 2h and a 3h invite goes down).
At IMPS not bidding 3h would border on criminal.
plus a probable working dia Q) but you have a weak 2 bid when you
know p has 3 card support it is hardly a huge risk to invite with 3h
this may block the opps from competing further in spades so you might
win the hand even if u go down but p has to cater to you possibly having
as little as xx KQxx Qxx xxxx when they x only you know your hand is worth
2 more tricks than that. Asking if p in on top is a great bid with good chance
of success. While this deal might have been a tad lucky to make 4h imagine
p haivng xx Axx Kxxx AKxx an you waltzing home with 4h.
Bidding only 2h here is more of a MP decision than an imp one since its only
1 board but you are still risking going against the field by not inviting (thats not
always a bad thing but most mp are won playing better than the field not merely
guessing right in the bidding (ie bidding 2h and a 3h invite goes down).
At IMPS not bidding 3h would border on criminal.
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