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I don't know what I think the explanation of 4♥ should be, but no hand that opens 2N should later be explained as "25+ total points".
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SuperAccept Explanation
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Posted 2012-June-11, 21:26
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Posted 2012-June-11, 21:45
Bbradley62, on 2012-June-11, 21:26, said:
I don't know what I think the explanation of 4♥ should be, but no hand that opens 2N should later be explained as "25+ total points".
That's not a superaccept- GIB bid spades.
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Posted 2012-June-11, 22:29
cloa513, on 2012-June-11, 21:45, said:
That's not a superaccept- GIB bid spades.
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Posted 2012-June-12, 04:23
Bbradley62, on 2012-June-11, 22:29, said:
Over 3♥, any response by Opener other than 3♠ should be a super-accept.
Its not been defined for GIB- it too hopeful for them to define that when they can't define a 1 spade rebid correctly and a NT hand could have 25 TP in spades support though 25+ is rediculous.
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Posted 2012-June-27, 15:16
GIB considers supper accepts as the supper accept call shouldn't take the re-transfer call. Retransfer calls are the same sub-transfer call one level up.
The supper accepts shows max hand with doubleton somewhere or if you bid NT it shows max 4333 hand with 4 cards in the transferred major.
Same applies for 1NT/2NT opening.
If GIB does heart transfer using ♦'s call, if player rebid 3♦ is maximum and natural and doubleton in hearts as you didn't accept with minimum nor with 4333 maximum.
Main idea is always the transferred major to be played from NT's opener side. Which doesn't left holes in revealing the opener's hand distribution.
Bidding 3 in the major shows doubleton in the left suit which can't be bidded naturally ( it's diamonds for heart transfer and hearts for spade transfer ).
It doesn't justify of course the 25+TP, it's separate thing which has to be a bug which will be addressed to be fixed.
The supper accepts shows max hand with doubleton somewhere or if you bid NT it shows max 4333 hand with 4 cards in the transferred major.
Same applies for 1NT/2NT opening.
If GIB does heart transfer using ♦'s call, if player rebid 3♦ is maximum and natural and doubleton in hearts as you didn't accept with minimum nor with 4333 maximum.
Main idea is always the transferred major to be played from NT's opener side. Which doesn't left holes in revealing the opener's hand distribution.
Bidding 3 in the major shows doubleton in the left suit which can't be bidded naturally ( it's diamonds for heart transfer and hearts for spade transfer ).
It doesn't justify of course the 25+TP, it's separate thing which has to be a bug which will be addressed to be fixed.
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Posted 2012-June-27, 15:39
georgi, on 2012-June-27, 15:16, said:
GIB considers supper accepts as the supper accept call shouldn't take the re-transfer call. Retransfer calls are the same sub-transfer call one level up.
The supper accepts shows max hand with doubleton somewhere or if you bid NT it shows max 4333 hand with 4 cards in the transferred major.
Same applies for 1NT/2NT opening.
If GIB does heart transfer using ♦'s call, if player rebid 3♦ is maximum and natural and doubleton in hearts as you didn't accept with minimum nor with 4333 maximum.
Main idea is always the transferred major to be played from NT's opener side. Which doesn't left holes in revealing the opener's hand distribution.
Bidding 3 in the major shows doubleton in the left suit which can't be bidded naturally ( it's diamonds for heart transfer and hearts for spade transfer ).
It doesn't justify of course the 25+TP, it's separate thing which has to be a bug which will be addressed to be fixed.
The supper accepts shows max hand with doubleton somewhere or if you bid NT it shows max 4333 hand with 4 cards in the transferred major.
Same applies for 1NT/2NT opening.
If GIB does heart transfer using ♦'s call, if player rebid 3♦ is maximum and natural and doubleton in hearts as you didn't accept with minimum nor with 4333 maximum.
Main idea is always the transferred major to be played from NT's opener side. Which doesn't left holes in revealing the opener's hand distribution.
Bidding 3 in the major shows doubleton in the left suit which can't be bidded naturally ( it's diamonds for heart transfer and hearts for spade transfer ).
It doesn't justify of course the 25+TP, it's separate thing which has to be a bug which will be addressed to be fixed.
I think you mean, after reading what you wrote many times to acertain the meaning, is that he should bid major at game level to superaccept with an unbalanced hand. Other than 3NT, any other bid is nearly undefined. Maybe 4H is a hand holding 5 hearts and 2 spades and a maximum.
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Posted 2012-June-27, 15:47
cloa513, on 2012-June-27, 15:39, said:
I think you mean, after reading what you wrote many times to acertain the meaning, is that he should bid major at game level to superaccept with an unbalanced hand. Other than 3NT, any other bid is nearly undefined. Maybe 4H is a hand holding 5 hearts and 2 spades and a maximum.
right, 4♥ should mean 4-5♥ and 2♠, max opening.
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