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Off 2 Quick Club Tricks ( unless they lead something else )

#21 User is offline   aguahombre 

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Posted 2012-June-27, 09:44

1H-6H is so old with these hands that two quick losers in a suit are expected. But, it still works when opening leader guesses wrong. The exclusion ploy is less common, but it can't hurt to double just in case. So, the direct blast might be a better plan.
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Posted 2012-June-27, 10:05

1H-6H is just a stupid bid. You have no heart honors and 8 HCP to go with your 2 club losers. It is not the equivalent of bidding 1H p 7H with AKQxxx AKxxx -- xx or something would be reasonable.

1H p 2N p
3N showing 18-19 bal, now you might think about some trickery since you know partner has significant extras. It might depend on the opponents. 5C is certainly a bid especially against weak opps. Given my reputation for psyching exclusion I'm thinking 5D might be a reasonable bid for me against a very good opp. Or you could blast. Or you could simply bid a subtle 4C if you think exclusion is fishy. If a club bid gets doubled, you can always reconsider. Or you could play it straight and start with 4D if you decide you won't get away with a club bid. Any of these things are fine, this hand becomes a tactical one.
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Posted 2012-June-27, 20:16

We play extended 1430 Baby Blackwood, so the bidding would go:
1 2NT
3 3
4 4
5
At this point we would realise that we were missing AK. We don't play that you need all the key cards to go up a level, given that we start so low. So the auction translates to:
I have 3 key cards.
I'm missing one but do you have the trump queen?
I do, and one of my controls was in diamonds.
Cool, I have spade control.
Oh, so clubs are out.
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Posted 2012-June-27, 22:07

If you don't like splinter, don't like Jacoby 2NT, why don't you use the old forcing raise and use a wide-ranging constructive raise? It then shows nothing about the side suits if you just want to go to game so the opponents will be in a guess when they make the opening lead!

1 - 2 = 6-11
1 - 3 = GF
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Posted 2012-June-28, 01:08

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-June-27, 10:05, said:

1H-6H is just a stupid bid. You have no heart honors and 8 HCP to go with your 2 club losers. It is not the equivalent of bidding 1H p 7H with AKQxxx AKxxx -- xx or something would be reasonable.


If they doubled for the lead, we would be in a huge disaster!
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Posted 2012-June-28, 14:55

View Postperko90, on 2012-June-25, 22:53, said:

1-1;
2NT-3;
4-4??;
5-5



View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2012-June-26, 01:44, said:

1 - 3 (forcing raise)
4 - 4
5 - 5



1 - 2NT
3 - 3
4 - 4
5 - 5



View Postrmnka447, on 2012-June-26, 16:44, said:

1 - 2 NT(Jacoby)
3 NT - 4
4 - 4
4 NT(waiting) - 5
5


What are you guys doing? you all know AK are missing yet decide to go macho and make another bid to risk a disaster?
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