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8 Clubs Sacrificing Bridge

Poll: Make bids of 8 CL, 8 DI, 8HT legal? (52 member(s) have cast votes)

Make bids of 8 CL, 8 DI, 8HT legal?

  1. Yes (10 votes [19.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.23%

  2. No (42 votes [80.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.77%

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#1 User is offline   qwery_hi 

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Posted 2009-May-14, 04:32

What do you think of making legal the bids of 8♣, 8♦ and 8♥?
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Posted 2009-May-14, 04:51

Disagree totally, and I'm not a conservative person by any means.

Not only it would be a very rare situation, it's also against the spirit of the game that you start defeated.
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Posted 2009-May-14, 06:01

Don't agree, but if it were, why not 8 spades too?
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Posted 2009-May-14, 06:09

I have been in favour of allowing these bids for quite some time.

Since it is perfectly within the spirit of the game to save against opponents' slam or grand slam , expecting to go down a lot, but still gaining IMPs, why would it be against the spirit of the game to be able to judge that while the opps are making 7S , we can make 10 tricks in Diamonds? Why wouldn't we like to reward this judgement?
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Posted 2009-May-14, 06:10

3for3, on May 14 2009, 07:01 AM, said:

Don't agree, but if it were, why not 8 spades too?

Do you really want to make sacriface over 7NT?
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Posted 2009-May-14, 06:40

Don't like the idea. Sacs are part of the game, but the highest bid should be "I can take all tricks in notrumps".

Edit: And one could go on. Shoud 9♣ then not be allowed? Perhaps partner sacs in 8♦, but we would like to overrule him in 9♣. Etc.
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Posted 2009-May-14, 07:08

If it ain't broke.....
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Posted 2009-May-14, 07:32

This is madness and this is NOT Sparta.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-May-14, 07:38

I like to sacrifice, but I think that allowing 8♣/♦/♥ are taking it too far... I guess in theory it could work, but "If it ain't broke..."
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Posted 2009-May-14, 07:45

Why stop there? Maybe another suit could be Phased in over time.
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Posted 2009-May-14, 08:13

it's nice to know that when I have a higher ranking suit than CHO, I can stop him on the 7 level.
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Posted 2009-May-14, 08:16

gwnn, on May 14 2009, 09:13 AM, said:

it's nice to know that when I have a higher ranking suit than CHO, I can stop him on the 7 level.

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Posted 2009-May-14, 10:43

3for3, on May 14 2009, 07:01 AM, said:

Don't agree, but if it were, why not 8 spades too?

Or 8N.

I do think it would be interesting to play with a deck of 56 or 60 cards however :)
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Posted 2009-May-14, 10:49

There was a 'bridge' version in Spain where they used 'nulos'. Nulos meant you promised NOT to win x amount of tricks. Nulos were above NT. Let's say you bid 1 Nulo, then you had to make only 6 tricks (2 nulos just 5 and so on). You could then play 7 nulos meaning that you promised not to make any trick (so each trick you made was actually 1 down).

This is of course a pretty interesting excercise to play or to practice, just to change the thought pattern and stuff.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-May-14, 11:04

So now we can play Bridge, Hearts and Barbu all at the same time!
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Posted 2009-May-14, 11:33

What's wrong with 8♠? You may want to sacrifice against 7NT...
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Posted 2009-May-14, 11:53

I'm quite happy with the bridge rules as they are, does that make me boring?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-May-14, 11:56

I do not want to sacrifice bridge.
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Posted 2009-May-14, 13:04

Free, on May 14 2009, 12:33 PM, said:

What's wrong with 8♠?  You may want to sacrifice against 7NT...

Exactly! Here only down 2 against 7N making:

(7N)-8♣*-X**-8♥***
(X)-8♠-(P)-P
(X)-AP

* 8♣ - non-leaping michaels (expert treatment), ♣+major
** X - no desire to sacrifice at the 8 level
*** 8♥ - pass/correct for North's major


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Posted 2009-May-14, 13:57

This used to be allowed. I don't remember when it got taken out - my very foggy memory says about the time they got rid of unlimted redoubling.

It'll never happen - the same people who griped about 7Sx-11 fav being only -2100 would have a hissy fit.
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