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Poll: What is your next call? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your next call?

  1. pass - only 11 HCP. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 2NT - Almost balanced. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3C - show clubs. (11 votes [55.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.00%

  4. 3H - pretty good hand, let's force. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3NT - shows tricks, not a balanced hand. (9 votes [45.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.00%

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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2004-November-13, 11:09



Matchpoints, all VUL.

You open 1C in first seat (or not?).

Partner bids 1S, and RHO bids 2H. What's you next call?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2004-November-13, 11:11

Perhaps I should have added 4C as an option?

Anybody for opening 3NT?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2004-November-13, 11:41

I play g/b 2N here, so 3♣ is a little easier, which shows a decent hand. So, I'm clearly worth some kind of serious upgrade. I think I would like my pard to get another spade bid off his chest first, so I'm going a little slow.

Only 11 HCP? really :lol: ? K & R calls this a 20.05 count! If anything I'm waayyyyy too good for 3♣.
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Posted 2004-November-13, 11:41

I open 1C, and rebid 3C after 2H intervention. This hand is actually very good. 4C would never occur to me. Not 3N either.
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Posted 2004-November-13, 12:21

given the poll choices, i'd bid 3nt.. i dislike 3♥, too many chances for misunderstanding (pard may take it for spade support, and a later 5♣ by me as cueing for a spade slam-stranger things have happened)...
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Posted 2004-November-13, 14:54

Hum.. since it's matchpoints, I'm tempted into opening 5C and double anything they bid afterwards :lol:

After 2H I like 3NT... Unless you play it shows a bal 19-20 points hand, lol.
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Posted 2004-November-13, 17:18

No I don't open 1C. I open 5C. This makes it far harder for the opponents to find a making Major contract or a sacrifice. If pd has an A tough luck.

I cannot for the life of me understand anyone opening 1C and rebidding a non forcing 3C.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 02:14

This is a 5C opener. Patner needs litttle for it to have a shot, needs a lot for me to want to be in 6C, and its fairly likely that they can make 4M but not 5M if they don't have a club void and if they do they may have a slam. Little can go wrong and much can go right.

Give me a void and a ninth club and I'd give serious consideration to opening 6C if our partnership defines that as premptive rahter than twelve sure tricks missing a high trump.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 03:08

The_Hog, on Nov 13 2004, 11:18 PM, said:

No I don't open 1C. I open 5C. This makes it far harder for the opponents to find a making Major contract or a sacrifice. If pd has an A tough luck.

I cannot for the life of me understand anyone opening 1C and rebidding a non forcing 3C.

Absolutely right!

Opening this 1♣ is another example of 2-handed as opposed to 4-handed bridge. If the opponents were to keep quiet, 1♣ would allow you to find out exactly where you want to play. But since they aren't going to keep quiet it is not sensible to give them the chance to find out exactly where they should play!

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Posted 2004-November-14, 06:50

Hannie, on Nov 14 2004, 06:09 AM, said:

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Vul: ????
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♠ x
♥ Axx
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Matchpoints, all VUL.

You open 1C in first seat (or not?).

Partner bids 1S, and RHO bids 2H. What's you next call?

wouldn't open 1♣ playing SAYC 2/1 (or of course Precision)

I would open it 4♣ in 1st position as we are all vul :P


HOWEVER to answer your question ASSUMING I had opened it 1♣ NOW I would bid 5♣ ;)
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Posted 2004-November-14, 08:19

If you open 1♣ on this hand, ok, then bid 3NT now...

I wouldn't open 1♣ with most partners, since we can use 2♣ as semi-GF. Here we have 8-9 tricks, so 2♣ and a 3♣ rebid tells my hand. Partner just has to make up his damn mind after that ;)

Opening 4♣ is absolute madness, why don't you use 4♣ as preempt?
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Posted 2004-November-14, 12:44

I think the controls are a little too good for a preempt. Tough to get anywhere on the hand if pard happens to have some strength opposite the Axx fragment too.
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