[aramesh_]

I find some TDs remain invisible during the tournament they are hosting.
Is it fair to do that?

[hrothgar]

This raises an interesting question...

Why are you concerned that tournament directors are invisible?
Would your behaviour change if you knew that the director was at the table?

[aramesh_]

Hi
The question of my behaviour in the presence or absence of the Td at the table doesn't arise at all here.
A player logged in the invisible mode becomes visible once he is playing or is a kibitzer. So I can always know who is kibbing at my table and behave. Let me hasten to add that I always follow the rules set by the TD in a tournament to the letter and have never been pulled up for misdeamenor-TD present or not.
My concern here is that if a TD is invisible, a player will find it difficult to send a private message to the TD in case of need for an urgent communication with the TD. Of course, he can always use the 'Call TD' button, but, some time can be lost by this method.

[hrothgar]

aramesh_, on Nov 27 2004, 07:43 PM, said:

Hi
The question of my behaviour in the presence or absence of the Td at the table doesn't arise at all here.
A player logged in the invisible mode becomes visible once he is playing or is a kibitzer. So I can always know who is kibbing at my table and behave. Let me hasten to add that I always follow the rules set by the TD in a tournament to the letter and have never been pulled up for misdeamenor-TD present or not.
My concern here is that if a TD is invisible, a player will find it difficult to send a private message to the TD in case of need for an urgent communication with the TD. Of course, he can always use the 'Call TD' button, but, some time can be lost by this method.

Apologies...

I badly misconstrued the original post

[aramesh_]

Hi

Nice of you to say that
I hope the spirit behind my post is clear and well intended.
Ara

[xx1943]

hrothgar, on Nov 27 2004, 06:22 PM, said:

Why are you concerned that tournament directors are invisible?

If someone is invisible, you'll see him /her, if he/she is kibitzing or playing.

[hallway]

A TD is not invisible to his/her tournament . As you say you can see them if they are kibbing your table but even if they are in the tournament lobby they will have made at least one announcement to the Tournament so all you have to do is click on the ID in your chat panel to send a private message.

I , more often than not, log in invisible to work a tournament. The reason being that if I am visible in the main lobby the message a member gets when they hold their cursor over my name makes it seem that I am 'doing nothing'. Quite rightly the member then feels they can contact me . Getting multiple messages concerning all manner of things - what is est?, where is the news? et all while trying to find subs etc and keeping the tournament flowing smoothly is far from fun.

At least if the TD is invisible in the Main Lobby you can be reasonably sure they are giving you and the tournament their full undivided attention (however good or bad that may be )

[rona_]

Aramesh is the TD of one of the largest, more successful, daily, non-paying tournaments on bbo. He even finds time to respond to kibs' questions and comments.

If an invisible TD makes an announcement as soon as the tournament starts then he is easy to track, however, some invisible TD's don't. Tournament starts, your opps aren't bidding, and knowing how some TDs don't want you to use call the director button but want to be private-messaged, you waste time looking for him in the lobby......etc. No I don't think it's fair.

[aramesh_]

Thanks rona for saying that the tournament I host is among the largest and more succesful ones at BBO.
This is largely because of the excellent help I get from my friends Jan (jw_nl) and Pia (satto_dk) who are CO-TDs with me.
If many players feel as you do, the purpose of hosting our tournament is truly served.
Thanks once again.
Ara