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Though decision

Poll: What do you bid? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (4 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  2. Dbl (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  3. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3[CL] (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  5. 3[HE] (4 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  6. 3[SP] (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 4[HE] (14 votes [58.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

  8. Something else (plz explain) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Free 

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Posted 2004-November-14, 08:44

Scoring: IMP


The bidding goes (West starts):

pass - 1 - 1NT - Dbl
2* - Dbl - 2 - ?

1 shows 3+s, usually at least 4
2 is transfer to s
2 shows at least a 3 card support

What do you bid?
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Posted 2004-November-14, 09:58

3C. If pard has some extras and hearts, he'll bid them.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 10:08

I see my options as;
pass forcing
Dble penalty
3 level C or H invitational
4H to play

Partner has H, I have H so what is wrong with 3 or 4H. I would consider 3H as an invite and I feel it is my position to be more aggressive in this postion so would bid 4H. I may not make it, but I do not think it will have no play either.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 10:12

i bid 3, since we're vulnerable and i have to decide whether or not i can blast to game... with my hand, against a bidding op, i'll invite... i think pard will play me for something like this
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Posted 2004-November-14, 10:32

would be ideal if i could get pd to bid 4H. Here I would bid 4H hoping club finesse is good enough.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 12:25

4h
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Posted 2004-November-14, 12:55

Anything less than 4 is "pussillanimous". BW readers will know what I'm talking about.

Seriously; this hand is golden; no wastage in spades, tenace in hearts, Q, which protects partner's king, in case we get a diamond lead through (I'm playing it) and a nice trick source.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 15:05

Let partner double 2 before bidding too many .

It seems partner has 4, but I am not completelly sure this isn´t just a power double.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 17:17

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 09:05 PM, said:

Let partner double 2 before bidding too many .

It seems partner has 4, but I am not completelly sure this isn´t just a power double.

This is impossbile in the context. Note that RHO overcalled 1N.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 18:53

4H...red at imps...i will play it double dummy considering the auction, and i have a major suit fit and 2 opening hands
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Posted 2004-November-14, 21:09

3S showing 4H & GF values. Denying a spade stopper.

This is a Lebenshohl style auction. As if the bidding had gone

1N : (2) : ?

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Posted 2004-November-15, 02:35

My partner's hand:



I blasted to 4 which was just made :) At the other table they didn't find 4 for some reason (they played 2*-1), and my partner thought my 4 bid was from another planet :lol: LHO had 0 HCP.
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Posted 2004-November-15, 03:29

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 10:05 PM, said:

Let partner double 2 before bidding too many .

It seems partner has 4, but I am not completelly sure this isn´t just a power double.

Double 2S?? No way I'm letting that happen. They're on their safety level and trumps break 3-2.

I just noticed pard had doubled 2H (didn't see it 1st time), so 3H seems normal. Can hardly be a power double, and even if it is, pard will bid 3NT or 3S after your 3H and all is well :lol:
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Posted 2004-November-15, 09:01

luke warm, on Nov 14 2004, 06:12 PM, said:

i bid 3, since we're vulnerable and i have to decide whether or not i can blast to game... with my hand, against a bidding op, i'll invite... i think pard will play me for something like this

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Posted 2004-November-15, 09:13

Free, on Nov 15 2004, 04:35 AM, said:

My partner's hand:



I blasted to 4 which was just made :) At the other table they didn't find 4 for some reason (they played 2*-1), and my partner thought my 4 bid was from another planet :lol: LHO had 0 HCP.

Another planet?

In support of hearts, after a 1 opening bid, you nave easy time bidding game. What does zen master zar say? The Diamond queen is worth not only its full 2 points now, but being an honor in partner's suit, worth a bonus one too. As are the heart K and T. So you have 11 hcp, 3 Control points, 1 bonus for diamond Q, two bonus for heart KT, 12 distributional points, and 1 ruffing vaule. My math is weak, but this comes to 30 ZAR points. Your partner promised 26, that is minimum of 56, four more than needed for game. Of course, if double doesn't show hearts, you might need to rethink this, but it does show hearts imho.

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Posted 2004-November-15, 13:46

partner's double of 2 presumably was showing the suit, so I "raise" to 4, though it might play better from the other side of the table to protect against a spade lead.
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