BBO Discussion Forums: Stayman over Cappelletti - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Stayman over Cappelletti

#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,542
  • Joined: 2010-February-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brooklyn, NY, USA

Posted 2012-May-11, 21:38

Should the explanation of North's double include a minimum strength?

0

#2 User is offline   aguahombre 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 12,029
  • Joined: 2009-February-21
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:St. George, UT

Posted 2012-May-11, 22:03

Perhaps it does. "11-" means the minimum is zero, I believe.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
0

#3 User is offline   Bbradley62 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,542
  • Joined: 2010-February-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brooklyn, NY, USA

Posted 2012-May-11, 22:20

Yes, that's what it means. I'm asking whether this is a "misprint": would GIB bid Stayman with a 3-count? Found my answer...

View Postuday, on 2011-April-06, 17:49, said:

It will use {Garbage Stayman} with the classic shape (4450)
...but not 4441 or (43)51.
0

#4 User is offline   aguahombre 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 12,029
  • Joined: 2009-February-21
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:St. George, UT

Posted 2012-May-11, 22:34

I think I would be more concerned that the 11- was a misprint as to the maximum.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
0

#5 User is offline   Bbradley62 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,542
  • Joined: 2010-February-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brooklyn, NY, USA

Posted 2012-May-12, 06:57

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-May-11, 22:34, said:

I think I would be more concerned that the 11- was a misprint as to the maximum.
What should the maximum HCP be when a passed hand bids Stayman?
0

#6 User is offline   pigpenz 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,554
  • Joined: 2005-April-25

Posted 2012-May-12, 11:31

I am curious, if there is no capelletti call will GIB bid 4 still
or invite with 3 call. Seems like GIB upgrades his hand if there
has been some sort of call by the opps.
0

#7 User is offline   pigpenz 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,554
  • Joined: 2005-April-25

Posted 2012-May-12, 11:34

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-May-11, 22:20, said:

Yes, that's what it means. I'm asking whether this is a "misprint": would GIB bid Stayman with a 3-count? Found my answer...
...but not 4441 or (43)51.

I always thought classic shape was 4441?
no reason not include (43)51 most players would do that, but I guess not GIB
especially on a weak hand.
0

#8 User is offline   Bbradley62 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,542
  • Joined: 2010-February-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brooklyn, NY, USA

Posted 2012-May-12, 20:28

View Postpigpenz, on 2012-May-12, 11:31, said:

I am curious, if there is no capelletti call will GIB bid 4 still or invite with 3 call. Seems like GIB upgrades his hand if there has been some sort of call by the opps.

I would expect GIB to count his hand as 10 total points and to go to game opposite the 1NT opener.
0

#9 User is offline   georgi 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Yellows
  • Posts: 1,317
  • Joined: 2007-December-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bulgaria

Posted 2012-June-02, 06:25

GIB counts the hand as 10TP and therefor bids game ( as long major fit was found). It needs 10+TP
With 9TP it would invite with 3.

If South rebid was 2/2 GIB would bid 2NT as invite.

Here you see 11-HCP and 12-TP just because North is passed hand. And that's the maximum.

If South was opener the explanation would be just "Stayman" so how the minumum points should apply? You can't tell in advance which scheme would follow after.

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users