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Cayne #7, expecting flack

#21 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2012-April-23, 17:08

View Posthan, on 2012-April-23, 16:08, said:

If you are saying that I bid badly, then I agree. If you saying that partners bidding is ok because I bid badly, then I don't understand that line of thinking.

I say partner made the right decision with the info you gave him, where 6421 is the most likelly shape.

What would 4 by you mean? that COG thing?
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Posted 2012-April-23, 17:12

I am guessing that this auction has never come up.


It looks like Han was trying to show a 6-4 hand with extras above gf rather than a minimum 6-4 gf hand since pard denies 4 hearts here.

Over 2D, partner's first priority if to bid 2H with 4. For the rest our style is to bid naturally with a strong preference for the cheapest calls. So 3C showed a good club suit, I could expect AKxxx. This was good news. On the other hand, he would open 1NT with many balanced 14-counts holding AKxxx, and would open many 11's. The hand also became difficult in terms of strain: if partner had a small singleton spade then 6C seemed likely better than 6S.



"My 3H call was natural, and so was his 3NT. I figured that by bidding 4S now, I was showing a slam try with 6-4 in the majors. If partner had a bad hand for me then he would pass and we would likely be in the safest game. I thought that I had to have a slam try, I can't be looking for the best game by first introducing a 4-card heart suit (while I know that partner doesn't have hearts) and then pulling 3NT to 4S. Which other games could I be interested in?"

It looks like he was worried pard has:


x....JTx....Kxxx...AKxxx or something close.

but cant pard rebid 2c with that and not 1nt?
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Posted 2012-April-23, 17:47

w/o knowing your entire system its difficult to speculate
but why not use 4c/d as voidwood vs splinter? You can usually
pattern out with your system with a bit of lying by bidding
4c/d raise over 3n to show your short dia and slam interest?

As it turns out p will show 3 keys and you will have no trouble
bidding 6s and p better bid 7c with the spade K and you can
safely bid 7n.

As an aside--when was the last time you happily used a PJSR??
7n is easy to reach after 1c 2s strong jump shift (max 1 loser)
in spades.
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Posted 2012-April-23, 18:20

many play that as a version of reverse flannery or even a limt raise in clubs.
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