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The Diamond Dilemna BBF vs. JEC #7 board 1

#1 User is offline   mgoetze 

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Posted 2012-April-22, 16:21


2♦ was natural and game-forcing
2♠ showed a stopper
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Posted 2012-April-22, 16:53

4c given that 2d is nat and gf.
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Posted 2012-April-22, 19:05

I think 3D is a hand that is interested in slam in diamonds since other hands would bid 2N or 3C or 3H. I have good diamonds and 2 controls. So I'll try 3S showing a king or ace and some slam interest. If I think 3S is unclear, I'll try 4C.
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Posted 2012-April-22, 19:20

Bid shape not stoppers over 2♦. At some point, we have to admit having a balanced hand; and it's much easier to bid 2NT first and now 3♠=values, then to bid 2♠ first and now be endplayed into bidding 3NT.
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Posted 2012-April-23, 01:21

I would bid 3 NT

-If 3♦ was forcing, by not passing i save the board.

-If 3♦ was invitational, i have a hand that is borderline to accept the invitation and i am one of those who never gives a s@#$%t about a suit that wasnt bid by opponents. Maybe they dont lead, maybe they dont have enough of them to defeat even if the lead, maybe it is blocked.

I agree with Cherdano that this stopper showing bids are not my cup of tea. It is like road map to opponents on the way. I would bid shape first.
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Posted 2012-April-23, 02:01

3♦ was forcing - see the original post.
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Posted 2012-April-23, 02:48

I think 4♣ is clear. This decision is easier in an irregular partnership as CHO should appreciate the confusion over 3♠, plus you have nothing to show in hearts so can bid 4♠ next.
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Posted 2012-April-23, 05:47

I had a momentary lapse and bid 5♦ here - sorry guys. Anyway let's put you in the Cayne seat now:


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Finesse or drop?
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Posted 2012-April-23, 06:12

Perhaps it is interesting to note that my partner thought for a minute or so before playing the diamond 2.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-April-23, 06:27

JEC clearly decided to finesse but I don't see anything in it.

East is always going to take his time after winning trick one as there is quite a lot to think about on the hand. You might spend some time thinking about squeeze defence. Some players holding ♦Qxx may also lead a spade at this point (pointless I know, but you never know).

So I would have played for the drop.
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