[wank]

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[aguahombre]

4NT...best description I can do. Will accept not opening 1NT and having the 2NT rebid show a floor of 17, only because it is a given condition.

[Poky]

4NT.

If partner has some x-AJxxx-xx-AKxxx we should warn him slam is a bad idea.

[gnasher]

I'm assuming that 3♣ was natural, 3♦ showed long, strong diamonds, 4♣ was a 5-5 slam try, and 4♥ was a signoff.

I have quite a good hand in context. Partner already knows that I have only two hearts and that I'm not interested in slam, but he has still made another move. He's expecting a lot of my strength to be in diamonds, whereas in fact I don't have much diamond wastage. I have the aces of his short suits when I might have had kings. I'm not particularly minimum - when you rebid 2NT with a six-card minor, that often involves an upgrade, but this time I have the high-card values for 2NT.

With Poky's example I think partner should pass 4♥, knowing that the hands don't fit well. I think partner should have something like x AQ10xx xx AKJxx. I'd accept the slam try with 5NT.

[nigel_k]

My first instinct was similar to gnasher, but I'm not so sure our hand is really that good. The hand is minimum, including 4 HCP that are of highly questionable value. We have doubletons in both of partner's suits and our diamonds are not so good as to be easily usable opposite a shortage. And we would probably bid 4♥ on most 3262 hands because we want to slow partner down if he is hoping for a club fit.

[wank]

Partner has

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so you may or may not think he should have applied the brakes over 4♥. Slam is crap but can be made (QTx of hearts and KJx of clubs in slot, but the player who had the hand played 6NT on a spade to the queen by leading a diamond to the jack which was a failure when one hand had KTxx).

Lest you criticise my bidding, I was EW btw getting +100 from 4♥ lol

[Charlie Yu]

5♦, I think my lack of ♣ control is crucial to partner's decision.

[FrancesHinden]

You posted the hand before I had a chance to comment, but I don't think responder has shown a 5-5 (or 6-6!) slam try. I think he's shown a canape i.e. not strong enough for an initial 2/1. I was expected 1426 or even 1417 in dummy, Why? because he didn't bid 3H over 3D: he has bid hearts once, then clubs twice before bidding hearts again. I thought we were having a great auction to 5C opposite

x
Qxxx
x
KJ10xxxx

and to 6C opposite the same hand with the ace of hearts instead of the queen.

so with the actual hand opposite I'd have bid
1D- 1H
2NT-3C
3D- 3H
3NT- 4C
4H - P

[dboxley]

aguahombre, on 2012-March-12, 21:51, said:

4NT...best description I can do. Will accept not opening 1NT and having the 2NT rebid show a floor of 17, only because it is a given condition.

Upgrading this hand to at least 18, probably 19, seems automatic.