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BBFL team 4 vs team 5 Last of first half swings

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Posted 2012-March-11, 21:09

What do you call over your partner's bid of 3?


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Posted 2012-March-12, 00:38

Looks like South has a long and solid suit,no 4 cards,strong hand since 3=GF or could be stopped at 4 minor lever, wnna play 3N,seeking for stopper.The question is would T986 be enough?Could North have semi-stopper?What's the possible bidding?

1.North bids 3:Does it mean suit or semi-stopper for ?Do you guys have any conventions here?

2.North bids 3N:hope for good luck.

3.North bids 4.
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Posted 2012-March-12, 00:54

View Postmenggq, on 2012-March-12, 00:38, said:

Looks like South has a long and solid suit,no 4 cards,strong hand since 3=GF or could be stopped at 4 minor lever, wnna play 3N,seeking for stopper.The question is would T986 be enough?Could North have semi-stopper?What's the possible bidding?

1.North bids 3:Does it mean suit or semi-stopper for ?Do you guys have any conventions here?

2.North bids 3N:hope for good luck.

3.North bids 4.



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Granted you risk leaving something out but so you state that and move on.

in your example you got trapped in your own loop.

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Posted 2012-March-12, 01:17

I would probably bid 3NT and apologize if it works out badly.
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Posted 2012-March-12, 02:57

I would not play my partner for a help in hearts. With more then a singleton low honour he surely had choosen another bid. So biding 3 Nt is aiming at a narrow target.
I would bid 4 , I do not have enough to justify a jump to game.
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Posted 2012-March-12, 03:08

View Postinquiry, on 2012-March-11, 21:09, said:

What do you call over your partner's bid of 3?




This was the one hand I got to kib. The pass over 3 hearts was alerted as showing a suit worth having partner lead (double would have shown lack of interest in the suit).
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Posted 2012-March-12, 08:38

I bid 3N, and maybe my judgment is colored by playing against people that don't always get the defense right. A lot of things can go right:

* Partner can have the Q or J of hearts (or stiff K)
* LHO may decide to lead from a long or chunky side suit (I've seen weirder things happen)
* LHO may underlead Qxx/Jxx, and they may not untangle it
* LHO may have a stiff honor (give partner something like A / xxx / AKQJxxx / KQ, for example)

In hindsight, I think 4C is right, and I don't find it that close. Competent opponents (and/or ones holding AKQJxx) will usually get this right.
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Posted 2012-March-12, 08:52

3S showing half a stopper. I dont know what else 3S could show here.
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Posted 2012-March-14, 12:51

I like the idea of 3S, we didn't overcall 1S so I think it might even be fielded at the table (that is, I think partner would bid 3N with a heart honor regardless of what he thinks is going on).
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Posted 2012-March-15, 12:48

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Posted 2012-March-16, 02:03

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-March-12, 08:52, said:

3S showing half a stopper. I dont know what else 3S could show here.


Maybe a hand too weak to act directly over 1 , like the actual one with the black suits switched? Hoping to find partner with 3073 or something like that?
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Posted 2012-March-16, 05:31

My style is to play COG before making slam tries. So IMO 4S or 4H should suggest playing 4S/5M and not be slammish, also its probably possible to bid 3S and pull 3Nt to 4c suggesting that 4S is possible but that im not forcing to 5m.

Anyway I think that when partner showed a solid minor having a half a stopper bid is a must, a stiff J can make the difference between making 3Nt or being -3 after all.
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2012-March-16, 05:46

Another sequence where you can ask about a stopper or be natural is ...

1Nt--3H 3=1-(54) GF
3S--??

what does 3S mean ? I think that its kind of a 3way bid with a hand like

AKxx
Jxxx
AKx
Jx



1- asking for half a stopper in H ( a stiff honor)
2- showing 5S and a min hand (a direct 4S would be better and 4H even better i guess)
3- wanting to know wich minor is best with correction to 4S to play or 4H as COG. (both suggesting that we dont have a great fit in the minors)
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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