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Posted 2004-October-30, 09:55

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You have stumbled and bumbled into 5 after your partner opened 1 and your RHO overcalled 2. What is your best chance to make 11 tricks after the 8 opening lead? Describe your line of play

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Posted 2004-October-30, 10:31

Hidden reply: Duck the first round of clubs, then play J of spades
at soonest opportunity.

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Posted 2004-October-30, 12:10

cant see any reaon to duck first club here, still need dimonds 2-2.
but can this be made whit dimonds 3-1?
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Posted 2004-October-30, 13:23

Your only entry to dummy is Ace
Duck lead (and hope they dont return )
Draw trump, play J
Over to dummy with Ace

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Posted 2004-October-30, 13:48

jillybean2, on Oct 30 2004, 02:23 PM, said:

Your only entry to dummy is Ace
Duck lead (and hope they dont return )
Draw trump, play J
Over to dummy with Ace

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offcourse they will return clubs, have to consider best defence all the time
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Posted 2004-October-30, 14:43

Ok - you have 2 losers and a loser.
Play J, hope they cover it with Ace.
Over to dummy with Ace, Could drop losers on K,Q
Then pull trump. ?
But when loses opps will get back in with and youre down...
I don't know!
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Posted 2004-October-30, 15:20

i think
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Posted 2004-October-30, 16:44

luke warm, on Oct 30 2004, 04:20 PM, said:

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Posted 2004-October-30, 23:35

inquiry, on Oct 31 2004, 12:55 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

You have stumbled and bumbled into 5 after your partner opened 1 and your RHO overcalled 2. What is your best chance to make 11 tricks after the 8 opening lead? Describe your line of play


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Posted 2004-October-31, 10:12

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This was the hand from the BBO. 10 of 14 declarer's took less than 11 tricks. And two of those that took 11 tricks did so because of silly defense. And yet, the winning line seems. at least to me, to be relatively easy, and ack_hh and flame got it exactly correct.

The optimal line of play starts with ducking the first club. If East has seven clubs, this will not be the optimal line I guess, but with 5 or 6 clubs, this is the best start. From the 8 it looks like WEST has doubleton.

When east wins the club, he has to return on. Or you have time to knock out the spade ace and throw a club away spade king. When you win the club ACE, you have a double plan. One plan is to ruff the third club in dummy, but you don't have to try that right away. Instead, lead a spade. If WEST has the spade ace and a doubleton club (as was the case), you will not have to ruff a club at all, so that a three-one diamond split with jack in the long hand will not be a problem. If East wins the spade ace, you have to fall back on 2-2 diamond split or 3-1 with singleton jack.

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Posted 2004-October-31, 16:54

Flame, on Oct 31 2004, 12:44 AM, said:

Ducking the club is a must if you want to make the game on a 2-2 break, its not only to let them mess things up when diamond break 3-1.

that's true enough, but it does give them that option...
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Posted 2004-October-31, 17:31

luke warm, on Oct 31 2004, 05:54 PM, said:

Flame, on Oct 31 2004, 12:44 AM, said:

Ducking the club is a must if you want to make the game on a 2-2 break, its not only to let them mess things up when diamond break 3-1.

that's true enough, but it does give them that option...

Yes, i said "not only".
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