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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:10

Red vs Red:

♠KTxx
♥AQx
♦Jx
♣Jxxx

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View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:30

I would bid 4♠. LHO very likely will double if I don't. But if LHO is timid I suppose you could pass and hope to buy it.
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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:33

Depends...

Does your partner bid disciplined in 3rd/4th seat and/or in RED?

Based on the bidding you can assume this is a split deck.

I value your hand as having 5 losers or even 6.

I see no real science to this hand...don't know the odds enough to even try to guess...

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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:34

I will guess that partner has 9 HCP and a single in clubs...

AQxxxxx in S
Kxx in H
xx in D
x in C


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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:35

I've tried sneeky passes in situations like this but they always worked out sneekily badly. Somehow partner always has more than I expect, perhaps I should have expected this when both opponents pass with 2 spades combined.
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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:38

It depends who you are playing with.
With one of my partners I would pass and hope it's only down 3 :)
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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:39

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-February-21, 15:38, said:

It depends who you are playing with.
With one of my partners I would pass and hope it's only down 3 :)



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Posted 2012-February-21, 15:47

If it's IMPs/Teams, 4♠ seems to be a no-brainer. If it's MP pairs, will need to consult the farmers' handbook B-)
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Posted 2012-February-21, 16:10

4♠. If partner has three diamonds and the heart hook works, we'll actually make it. There's some other possibilities too. Otherwise, I will tell my partners we got pushed there.

If the heart hook is wrong, clearly the opponents can make something, and they might bid it if I pass.
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Posted 2012-February-21, 16:16

Opps are strangely quiet, so it's odds-on pard has a heavy pree.

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Posted 2012-February-21, 17:58

If my partner is traditional ie 2 short at this Vul then I have 2 tricks plus a fair chance that either my Q♥ is a trick, or one of the minor Jacks is worth something. Maybe pards has 3 ♦ and he can ruff one for his 10th. Just too many ways 4 can be right and the reward is worth the risk.

At other vunerabilities esp white V red I'd think about passing though at white V red I'd probably be opening so no problem for me :-)
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Posted 2012-February-21, 18:48

NAE: I would have opened but 4S seems clear now, how derranged is your partner? If he's disciplined you have two tricks and its worth a punt at IMPs.
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