[gartinmale]

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Matchpoints, in a club game of varying strength. You bid your way to 4♠, South declaring, with the opponents silent, via the unsophisticated auction 1♠ - 2♠ - 4♠. Lefty leads the J♣, showing the T♣ or shortness. Plan the play.

[phil_20686]

gartinmale, on 2012-January-27, 01:31, said:

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Matchpoints, in a club game of varying strength. You bid your way to 4♠, South declaring, with the opponents silent, via the unsophisticated auction 1♠ - 2♠ - 4♠. Lefty leads the J♣, showing the T♣ or shortness. Plan the play.

win in hand and play a heart

[gartinmale]

Okay, I guess this one isn't that interesting. I took the above line, which seemed reasonable, and quietly went down one, losing two hearts, the spade king offside, and a club ruff. Opening leader had JT sixth of clubs.

If you want to make the hand, you need to win in dummy and at tricks 2 and 3 jettison the AK of clubs on the AK of diamonds.

I actually thought about doing this briefly at the table but discarded it because it seemed flashy and I would catch so much hell if it wasn't right.

[ahydra]

Sounds like a rather extreme variation of a scissors coup (well, not exactly, but close enough)!

Did you manage to ruff a heart then? If you pull all the trumps it seems you lose another heart.

ahydra

[Antrax]

I'm not sure why the proposed line is better. Where is your entry to finesse spades a second time? Even if LHO can't lead a third round of hearts, what happens when he continues clubs and his partner refuses to ruff? Do we assume the ♠J drops?

[phil_20686]

gartinmale, on 2012-January-29, 02:22, said:

Okay, I guess this one isn't that interesting. I took the above line, which seemed reasonable, and quietly went down one, losing two hearts, the spade king offside, and a club ruff. Opening leader had JT sixth of clubs.

If you want to make the hand, you need to win in dummy and at tricks 2 and 3 jettison the AK of clubs on the AK of diamonds.

I actually thought about doing this briefly at the table but discarded it because it seemed flashy and I would catch so much hell if it wasn't right.

You seem to have not nearly enough tricks if they win the first heart and play a spade through.they will get three hearts and a spade if they do it right.

[gartinmale]

Agreed. They still have to mess up, and you need the spade and heart positions to be favorable, because your entry to dummy is a heart ruff. And I don't think the line is percentage. But since the other line led to instant down one (for everyone - nobody made the hand), I thought the jettison was worth posting since I'd never seen something like it in actual play before.

I probably should have said "If you want to have a chance of making the hand", not "If you want to make the hand".

[Antrax]

But is 6-1 clubs, even given the lead, more likely than the layout that makes on that play?

[gartinmale]

No. But despite my misuse of language earlier, I don't think I've claimed that the jettison is percentage.