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German Open Team Qualifying 6th Hand

Poll: German Open Team Qualifying 6th Hand (18 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you lead?

  1. 5 of Spades (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  2. 4 of Hearts (12 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  3. Ace of Diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 10 of Clubs (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 4 of Clubs (5 votes [27.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.78%

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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2012-January-26, 13:27

Okay, last one :)



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Posted 2012-January-26, 13:47

If this is teams, not sure I agree with the final double, I think that's hanging partner a bit for balancing.
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Posted 2012-January-26, 15:07

LHO didn´t bid 3♠ directly it seems he has solid values, and RHO is a second position opener. Something is not working. I need to know a little about partner.

I would lead a heart, but in retrospect leading away from a king where opponents are 3-2 will very raarelly be any good, if I hadn´t led the heart so fast and though a bit more I think I would try a club.
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Posted 2012-January-26, 16:22

I don't like the double. Making seems more likely than -2. And I don't know what to lead.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-January-27, 00:06

I don't agree with the double at imps, but do at matchpoints.

I think I will try a club and hope partner has clubs behind dummy strength, and I have diamonds behind declarer's king. iF the minors are the other way around (clubs with opener, diamond in dummy) they may easily make. i hope we get 1-2 hearts, 1-2 spades, 2 diamonds and a club, with two tricks in at least one of the majors.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 04:37

I hate the double. If this is -2, I earn 7 imps. And how on earth can this be -2?
I am close to leading a spade, if the honours are divided, this may not even cost us a trick- and it may cost them even more then one trick. But I go with a systemic club too.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 06:55

I'll try a trump.

LHO's 3S makes it probable that he has A or Q of spades, so this lead probably gives nothing away and might well stop some ruffs. Besides, other leads are so much of a guess that I rather guess in trumps. Opps aren't going to set up any suits anyway.

Ok ok this completes my german clean-sweep. Can I have the cup now please? :P
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Posted 2012-January-27, 07:35

The problem with a trump is that they'll win it cheaply and then we won't be able to play any more of them without costing a trick. Ideally we want partner to win the opening lead and switch to a trump from his side. Then we can play two more rounds when we get in.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-January-27, 10:38

Right. But why can't pard have two spades? Or why can't I blow a 2nd trump trick with profit? :)
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Posted 2012-January-27, 10:51

View Postwhereagles, on 2012-January-27, 10:38, said:

Right. But why can't pard have two spades? Or why can't I blow a 2nd trump trick with profit? :)

He can have two spades, but it's not very likely. He doubled 2♠ as a passed hand, and the opponents have competed to 3♠ missing two trump honours and with less than half the high cards.

As for blowing a trump trick, you can if you like, but if you give away a trick unnecessarily it's still a problem.

Also, suppose that we have exactly one quick entry: if we lead a trump, and then use our side entry to play a second trump, we have used up our entry (and a trick) in order to play two rounds of trumps. If partner leads the first trump, we can use our entry to draw three rounds of trumps.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 10:56

Arguing goes both ways lol. Pard can also have a singleton ♠T or higher, dummy may have AQ of spades, leading a side suit might blow a trick as well, etc. Well, anyway, I'll just stick to my trump lead because in my experience when opps are playing dbled and outgunned, a trump lead is usually right.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 14:28

View Postmr1303, on 2012-January-26, 13:47, said:

If this is teams, not sure I agree with the final double, I think that's hanging partner a bit for balancing.


I'm sure. Double here with no clear lead is going for the hero biscuit.
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Posted 2012-January-28, 00:04

View PostGerben42, on 2012-January-26, 13:27, said:

Agree with bidding?

I'm tempted for a shot at 4♥ or 3NT after the X - I've got overcards, partner has shape / values in the other suits and a max pass, should have some play...

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Posted 2012-January-29, 10:36



Double would have survived, as long as ♥ aren't led. The combination of the two was deadly.
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