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Best auction wins...um, nothing... Maybe it'll have a point, maybe not.

#1 User is offline   jtfanclub 

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Posted 2004-October-21, 00:51

Scoring: IMP

How do you get to 6NT?


How do you find 6NT with this hand?
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Posted 2004-October-21, 01:55

If you allow me to bid it through a HUM.

•Pass= 13+ any shape
2♥= 6-11 singl./void♣ 4441 or 5?440
•2NT= relay
3♣= 4441 4/6-9 or 5♠440 4/6-11 (if 4p=A, 5p=K+anyQ)
•3♥= Control Points?
3NT = 1 CP (thus a King)
•4♣ scan (HSDC order)
4♥= K♥, no Q♥
•4♠= scan
5♦= Q♠, Q♦, no Q♣

now comes the tricky part if no J♠ you will not like a ♠ lead
•5♥= scan Jacks
5♠= no J♥
•5NT=scan
6♦= J♠, no J♦
•6NT and in the correct hand
Pass

If J♥ and no J♠ = the 5NT answer, you can pass eventually
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Posted 2004-October-21, 02:02

my first tought was that i dont find 6nt whit this hand, but we can find ut if p choose to open 2 clubs and rebid 2 nt, whith is 23-24 in our system. then it whould go 2 cl-2di-2nt-3cl(puppet)-3nt-4nt(kvant)-6nt:))
foole me once, shame one you!!
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Posted 2004-October-21, 03:16

2C 2D
3N 6N

3N = 25-27 bal. Has only 22, but has extra source of tricks to compensate.

Much easier with open cards, don't you agree? :)
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Posted 2004-October-21, 04:14

This is IMPS and I am gonna end in 6♣.
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Posted 2004-October-21, 05:09

2♦ 3NT
4♣ 4♥
6♣ Pass

where,
  • 2♦ = multi 2♦, either weak two major, bal 22-23, or acol 2 in either minor,
  • 3NT = 4-4 in majors, ask partner to bid his major if weak two in major
  • 4♣ = acol two in clubs
  • 4♥ = cue bid, no diamond contol, slam try
  • 6♣ end
Requirement for the acol minor part of this auction, is the ability to play this minor suit in slam opposite singelton, so north can make slam cue-bid try.

to read more about this treatment, which i play all the time, see chris rydal's webpage at.... http://www.cavendish...wo/diamonds.htm

Now change the condition of contest from IMPS to Matchpoints:
Scoring: MP

NOTE CHANGE to Matchpoints


How do you get to 6NT?


In a reasonable strong field, we will wrong side the contract, but can't be helped, but at mp, you got to take a shot at 6NT... does you little good to be in 6♣ when the field is in 6NT by south. In a weak field, south may choose to use the matchpoint auction.
2♦ 3NT
4♣ 4♥
4♠ 5♣ <<----- 4♠ cue-bid, 5♣ nothing else to cue
5NT 6NT <<----- 5NT pick a slam, 6NT ok
Pass

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Posted 2004-October-22, 00:56

Looks like easy hand for MIDMAC:

S N
1NT 2♦
3♣ 3NT
6NT

1NT: any 20+ points
2♦: 8+points, 4+card ♦, 1+ control
3NT: natural, no extras (p.f.a.)
6NT: count your tricks: if there are only 3♦ tricks, than N will have points in majors for extra stoppers.

For more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk
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Posted 2004-October-22, 01:33

GijsH, on Oct 22 2004, 08:56 AM, said:

Looks like easy hand for MIDMAC:

S      N
1NT  2♦
3♣  3NT
6NT

1NT: any 20+ points
2♦: 8+points, 4+card ♦, 1+ control
3NT: natural, no extras (p.f.a.)
6NT: count your tricks: if there are only 3♦ tricks, than N will have points in majors for extra stoppers.

For more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk

Is it really so easy?

I suppose you will have the same auction giving North
Qxxx
Qxxx
Axxx
x

or

KJxx
KJxx
xxxx
x

or

Qxxx
KJxx
Qxxx
x

and there is a long way from 3NT to 6NT.......
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Posted 2004-October-25, 05:44

Maybe....
2c 2d
2NT 3c
3NT 4NT
6NT

2c is strong, 2d waiting.
2nt = bal 23/24
3c = 5 card stayman
3NT = no 4/5 card M
4NT = quantitative
6NT = hope the clubs get us up to 12!

However, the 6NT is doubtful, may pass or bid 6NT depending on how lucky I feel.
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Posted 2004-October-26, 06:47

2C 2D
3N 4C (stayman)
4D 6N

thatis much more than 22 HCP :) 25-27 seems fair
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