How do you find 6NT with this hand?
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Best auction wins...um, nothing... Maybe it'll have a point, maybe not.
#2
Posted 2004-October-21, 01:55
If you allow me to bid it through a HUM.
•Pass= 13+ any shape
2♥= 6-11 singl./void♣ 4441 or 5?440
•2NT= relay
3♣= 4441 4/6-9 or 5♠440 4/6-11 (if 4p=A, 5p=K+anyQ)
•3♥= Control Points?
3NT = 1 CP (thus a King)
•4♣ scan (HSDC order)
4♥= K♥, no Q♥
•4♠= scan
5♦= Q♠, Q♦, no Q♣
now comes the tricky part if no J♠ you will not like a ♠ lead
•5♥= scan Jacks
5♠= no J♥
•5NT=scan
6♦= J♠, no J♦
•6NT and in the correct hand
Pass
If J♥ and no J♠ = the 5NT answer, you can pass eventually
•Pass= 13+ any shape
2♥= 6-11 singl./void♣ 4441 or 5?440
•2NT= relay
3♣= 4441 4/6-9 or 5♠440 4/6-11 (if 4p=A, 5p=K+anyQ)
•3♥= Control Points?
3NT = 1 CP (thus a King)
•4♣ scan (HSDC order)
4♥= K♥, no Q♥
•4♠= scan
5♦= Q♠, Q♦, no Q♣
now comes the tricky part if no J♠ you will not like a ♠ lead
•5♥= scan Jacks
5♠= no J♥
•5NT=scan
6♦= J♠, no J♦
•6NT and in the correct hand
Pass
If J♥ and no J♠ = the 5NT answer, you can pass eventually
freedom to use any bidding system
is vital to the development of bidding theory
Lukasz Slawinski, 1978
is vital to the development of bidding theory
Lukasz Slawinski, 1978
#3
Posted 2004-October-21, 02:02
my first tought was that i dont find 6nt whit this hand, but we can find ut if p choose to open 2 clubs and rebid 2 nt, whith is 23-24 in our system. then it whould go 2 cl-2di-2nt-3cl(puppet)-3nt-4nt(kvant)-6nt:))
foole me once, shame one you!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
#4
Posted 2004-October-21, 03:16
2C 2D
3N 6N
3N = 25-27 bal. Has only 22, but has extra source of tricks to compensate.
Much easier with open cards, don't you agree?
3N 6N
3N = 25-27 bal. Has only 22, but has extra source of tricks to compensate.
Much easier with open cards, don't you agree?
#6
Posted 2004-October-21, 05:09
2♦ 3NT
4♣ 4♥
6♣ Pass
where,
to read more about this treatment, which i play all the time, see chris rydal's webpage at.... http://www.cavendish...wo/diamonds.htm
Now change the condition of contest from IMPS to Matchpoints:
In a reasonable strong field, we will wrong side the contract, but can't be helped, but at mp, you got to take a shot at 6NT... does you little good to be in 6♣ when the field is in 6NT by south. In a weak field, south may choose to use the matchpoint auction.
2♦ 3NT
4♣ 4♥
4♠ 5♣ <<----- 4♠ cue-bid, 5♣ nothing else to cue
5NT 6NT <<----- 5NT pick a slam, 6NT ok
Pass
Ben
4♣ 4♥
6♣ Pass
where,
- 2♦ = multi 2♦, either weak two major, bal 22-23, or acol 2 in either minor,
- 3NT = 4-4 in majors, ask partner to bid his major if weak two in major
- 4♣ = acol two in clubs
- 4♥ = cue bid, no diamond contol, slam try
- 6♣ end
to read more about this treatment, which i play all the time, see chris rydal's webpage at.... http://www.cavendish...wo/diamonds.htm
Now change the condition of contest from IMPS to Matchpoints:
Scoring: MP
NOTE CHANGE to Matchpoints
How do you get to 6NT?
NOTE CHANGE to Matchpoints
How do you get to 6NT?
In a reasonable strong field, we will wrong side the contract, but can't be helped, but at mp, you got to take a shot at 6NT... does you little good to be in 6♣ when the field is in 6NT by south. In a weak field, south may choose to use the matchpoint auction.
2♦ 3NT
4♣ 4♥
4♠ 5♣ <<----- 4♠ cue-bid, 5♣ nothing else to cue
5NT 6NT <<----- 5NT pick a slam, 6NT ok
Pass
Ben
--Ben--
#7
Posted 2004-October-22, 00:56
Looks like easy hand for MIDMAC:
S N
1NT 2♦
3♣ 3NT
6NT
1NT: any 20+ points
2♦: 8+points, 4+card ♦, 1+ control
3NT: natural, no extras (p.f.a.)
6NT: count your tricks: if there are only 3♦ tricks, than N will have points in majors for extra stoppers.
For more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk
S N
1NT 2♦
3♣ 3NT
6NT
1NT: any 20+ points
2♦: 8+points, 4+card ♦, 1+ control
3NT: natural, no extras (p.f.a.)
6NT: count your tricks: if there are only 3♦ tricks, than N will have points in majors for extra stoppers.
For more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk
#8
Posted 2004-October-22, 01:33
GijsH, on Oct 22 2004, 08:56 AM, said:
Looks like easy hand for MIDMAC:
S N
1NT 2♦
3♣ 3NT
6NT
1NT: any 20+ points
2♦: 8+points, 4+card ♦, 1+ control
3NT: natural, no extras (p.f.a.)
6NT: count your tricks: if there are only 3♦ tricks, than N will have points in majors for extra stoppers.
For more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk
S N
1NT 2♦
3♣ 3NT
6NT
1NT: any 20+ points
2♦: 8+points, 4+card ♦, 1+ control
3NT: natural, no extras (p.f.a.)
6NT: count your tricks: if there are only 3♦ tricks, than N will have points in majors for extra stoppers.
For more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk
Is it really so easy?
I suppose you will have the same auction giving North
Qxxx
Qxxx
Axxx
x
or
KJxx
KJxx
xxxx
x
or
Qxxx
KJxx
Qxxx
x
and there is a long way from 3NT to 6NT.......
freedom to use any bidding system
is vital to the development of bidding theory
Lukasz Slawinski, 1978
is vital to the development of bidding theory
Lukasz Slawinski, 1978
#9
Posted 2004-October-25, 05:44
Maybe....
2c 2d
2NT 3c
3NT 4NT
6NT
2c is strong, 2d waiting.
2nt = bal 23/24
3c = 5 card stayman
3NT = no 4/5 card M
4NT = quantitative
6NT = hope the clubs get us up to 12!
However, the 6NT is doubtful, may pass or bid 6NT depending on how lucky I feel.
2c 2d
2NT 3c
3NT 4NT
6NT
2c is strong, 2d waiting.
2nt = bal 23/24
3c = 5 card stayman
3NT = no 4/5 card M
4NT = quantitative
6NT = hope the clubs get us up to 12!
However, the 6NT is doubtful, may pass or bid 6NT depending on how lucky I feel.
#10 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2004-October-26, 06:47
2C 2D
3N 4C (stayman)
4D 6N
thatis much more than 22 HCP
25-27 seems fair
3N 4C (stayman)
4D 6N
thatis much more than 22 HCP
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