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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2012-January-09, 18:31


Lead: 2 to RHO's K

Your play.

Edit: Sorry, original post had a mistake.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 19:33

I don't see anything.
Eagerly awaiting reveal...
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Posted 2012-January-09, 19:54

Eliminate red suits and play J.

West with Qx/KJTxx/x/Qxxxx might give a ruff-sluff thinking you have this hand:

ATxx
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AKxxxx
AJ
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:21

That was my first thought then I realized there is no reason whatsover for him to play a heart instead of a club if he is giving ruff-sluff. After all he saw our void in hearts but didn't see one in clubs.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:24

View Postpetterb, on 2012-January-09, 19:54, said:

Eliminate red suits and play J.

West with Qx/KJTxx/x/Qxxxx might give a ruff-sluff thinking you have this hand:

ATxx
x
AKxxxx
AJ


Why would LHO give u a ruffsluff in hearts when he'll have a club to play?
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:34

how about win the A, Heart to the A, ruff a heart, diamond to the Q, ruff a heart, then K of spades, A of spades, and club 3 towards the 10. If LHO was 2515, he will not get any indication from his partner who holds the club J, and may think he needs to duck the club to avoid giving a ruff sluff.

sorry edited it to make it work
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:41

Even if he somehow think we are 4-1-6-2 then ruff and sluff won't help us unless we have AQxx but then we have:
3 + 1 + 6 + 1 already taken so ducking would give us 12th trick.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:43

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-January-09, 20:41, said:

Even if he somehow think we are 4-1-6-2 then ruff and sluff won't help us unless we have AQxx but then we have:
3 + 1 + 6 + 1 already taken so ducking would give us 12th trick.


I fixed my line, realized pullin last trump was wrong. Pull only one round to entice LHO to think we're 3172
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:45

Then we have AK of spades, A of hearts, 7 diamonds, A of clubs so ducking gives us 12th trick.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 20:47

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-January-09, 20:45, said:

Then we have AK of spades, A of hearts, 7 diamonds, A of clubs so ducking gives us 12th trick.


Winning is hopeless if declarer is 3172, because flying queen means a forced ruffsluff, whereas ducking lets partner win the J and cash the high spade
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Posted 2012-January-09, 21:24

Yeah, ok. So we play for 2-5-1-5, one round of diamonds, two top spades and small to the T.
I like it, nice play.
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Posted 2012-January-10, 04:08

That's an attractive idea. West might still get it right though, because with KJx East should have played the jack at trick one.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-January-10, 14:07

claim down 1 and go for a smoke? I don't see it heh.
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Posted 2012-January-11, 09:36

The defence probably shouldn't get it wrong, but how about winning the club, play 5 rounds of trumps throwing the 8. West with QT KJxxx x Qxxxx has to be sure to keep both spades and at least 3 hearts (throwing a spade leaves a finesse position and if he comes down to 2 hearts, then you can exit a club and play for a trump squeeze or simple squeeze depending on what West leads). If they haven't blown it yet, exit a club and hope the defence messes up the remaining discards. As I said, they shouldn't get it wrong though.
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