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GIB regrets a bid?

#1 User is offline   Yu18772 

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Posted 2011-December-26, 22:06

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How can a passed hand that showed support and was passed in 2♥ bid over the second t/o double????
Especially a balanced 3 cards support hand.
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Posted 2011-December-26, 23:14

View PostYu18772, on 2011-December-26, 22:06, said:

http://tinyurl.com/7kgs2xv

How can a passed hand that showed support and was passed in 2♥ bid over the second t/o double????
Especially a balanced 3 cards support hand.
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Because it simulated that East will take it out and not do too bad and N-S might have game with North's nearly max pass hand and you do, its 3NT by South- West is horribly squeezed by the run of hearts- I assumed he starts with the top spades.
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Posted 2011-December-27, 00:42

Sorry, but I dont buy it.
If I might have game opposite a "near maximum" hand I would have invited over 2♥, and I would need a perfect hand with no wasted values and no ♣ ruff for the game - again a hand that would surely invite over 2♥. If I didnt that means that whatever he holds I am not interested in game and GIB is not a captain of this auction. On the other hand in 3rd seat opening I might open sub minimal hands.
The only hands that logically can bid on this auction are the ones that would remove my penalty double of East bid, and that is not a balanced maximal hand of 2♥ with 3 card support.
And I would start with low diamond, black suits are not going anywhere
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Posted 2011-December-27, 16:22

This was indeed due to simulations, the book bid is Pass. At IMPs, the distribution in my simulations was:

5 I bid 3C
2 I bid 3H
4 I bid P

I think the idea is that if it's going to compete to 3♥, it might as well show its suit along the way, to help opener evaluate his hand in case there's a double fit.

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Posted 2011-December-29, 15:44

Siding with GIB here. It is North's duty to act over the second TOX, and 3C is the most descriptive call. Remember that a raise after an opposing TOX may already be a stretch.
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