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Posted 2011-December-30, 05:18
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 05:22
han, on 2011-December-30, 05:18, said:
Matchpoints, all vulnerable.
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Q1098xxx
Ax
QJxx
What do you open?
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Q1098xxx
Ax
QJxx
What do you open?
4♥
I don't expect this to be a popular decision
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Posted 2011-December-30, 05:47
4H, expect this to be a standard decision.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 05:51
Anything jlol bids will be standard thereafter 
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I open 4♥ on teh basis of bidding 4♥ as much as possible, with majors reversed I think Iñd just bid 3♠.
.I open 4♥ on teh basis of bidding 4♥ as much as possible, with majors reversed I think Iñd just bid 3♠.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 07:47
Fluffy, on 2011-December-30, 05:51, said:
Anything jlol bids will be standard thereafter .
.Perhaps. I am surprised by this one though, vulnerable with a weakish 7 card suit I would only go as far as 3♥. So what is the deciding factor here for 4♥ - the spade void?
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Posted 2011-December-30, 07:59
The 7-4 shape, the intermediates, the fact the void is in spades. 4H is clear, especially at MPs.
Preempting is not just a thing of rules and stuff. It's judgement, i.e. thinking what your side might have and what opps might have, in this case 4H for us our 4S for them.
Or maybe 4S doubled...
Preempting is not just a thing of rules and stuff. It's judgement, i.e. thinking what your side might have and what opps might have, in this case 4H for us our 4S for them.
Or maybe 4S doubled...
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Posted 2011-December-30, 08:12
whereagles, on 2011-December-30, 07:59, said:
The 7-4 shape, the intermediates, the fact the void is in spades. 4H is clear, especially at MPs.
Preempting is not just a thing of rules and stuff. It's judgement, i.e. thinking what your side might have and what opps might have, in this case 4H for us our 4S for them.
Or maybe 4S doubled...
Preempting is not just a thing of rules and stuff. It's judgement, i.e. thinking what your side might have and what opps might have, in this case 4H for us our 4S for them.
Or maybe 4S doubled...
I was wondering about that last bit - using 4♥ to goad them into 4♠ where I have an ace and partner has a trump stack. Maybe we can pull a plus score out of thin air ...
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Posted 2011-December-30, 08:54
I would try 4H, and trust the enemy to bid 4S which I hope will please partner more than the 4H bid.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 10:07
1♥ - clearly not popular nor standard.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 12:31
4♥, my suit is amazing!
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 14:58
1♥, unconcerned about popularity or uniformity. I think there are too many things wrong with this for 4♥.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-December-30, 15:01
If you open 1H, perhaps it goes
1H - (1S) - 2D - (2S)
3H - (3S) - Dbl - all pass
+200.
If you open 4H the opponents bid 4S and partner doubles. +500.
1H - (1S) - 2D - (2S)
3H - (3S) - Dbl - all pass
+200.
If you open 4H the opponents bid 4S and partner doubles. +500.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-December-31, 05:56
han, on 2011-December-30, 15:01, said:
If you open 1H, perhaps it goes
1H - (1S) - 2D - (2S)
3H - (3S) - Dbl - all pass
+200.
If you open 4H the opponents bid 4S and partner doubles. +500.
1H - (1S) - 2D - (2S)
3H - (3S) - Dbl - all pass
+200.
If you open 4H the opponents bid 4S and partner doubles. +500.
Just as possible that you open 4♥ and go for 800 with nothing on for opponents.
Not all opponents accept the transfer to 4♠ lightheartedly, particularly if they have been burnt before.
I am not claiming I know what to do with this hand, I think it is close between 1♥ and 4♥.
I would certainly not preempt if the majors were reversed.
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Posted 2011-December-31, 09:50
What I posted was what actually happened at my table when I opened 1H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-January-01, 09:51
han, on 2011-December-31, 09:50, said:
What I posted was what actually happened at my table when I opened 1H.
Probably good enough at matchpoints?
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rhm, on 2011-December-31, 05:56, said:
Just as possible that you open 4♥ and go for 800 with nothing on for opponents.
I think it is less likely, with a huge majority of the expert world playing takeout doubles it is hard for them to double you off in 4H when you have a spade void. Even if they don't overcall 4S, if they double their partner will often have a 4S bid given our spade void.
Agree with you/everyone about not doing it with the majors reversed, the whole point of it here is the spade void obviously.
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Posted 2012-January-01, 13:37
rhm, on 2011-December-31, 05:56, said:
Just as possible that you open 4♥ and go for 800 with nothing on for opponents.
Personally, I'm more concerned with -200 or -300.
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