[dwar0123]

New partnership, called self advanced by standards of online bridge(3000+ mp)

Was my bidding out of line and how should I have bid it?

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[han]

Depends on your partner. With a beginner you should be careful, a good partner should not pass 5C.

[dwar0123]

Thinking about it more, I think I can just bid 4nt over 4♦, the ace of diamonds implied by 4♦ makes the formally useless ace of clubs useful for a diamond pitch.

Sigh, partner didn't speak to me for the rest of the tournament

[han]

On the bridgebase forums, it often is denied,
But that what is shown, cannot be implied.

[jillybean]

dwar0123, on 2011-December-28, 19:14, said:

Thinking about it more, I think I can just bid 4nt over 4♦, the ace of diamonds implied by 4♦ makes the formally useless ace of clubs useful for a diamond pitch.

Sigh, partner didn't speak to me for the rest of the tournament

I don't think you want to ask for aces here, what do you bid if partner responds showing 3?
I would keep it simple and texas or transfer to 4Sspades.

[mike777]

fwiw I would have just bid 4s over 3s giving up on slam.

bidding low hcp slams can be tough in a new partnership.

with that said agree pard should not pass 5c but cuebidding implied shortness or length or aces or Kings with a new pard can be confusing. I think Eddie Kantar must have written an entire book on cuebidding disasters he had over the years.

[FrancesHinden]

dwar0123, on 2011-December-28, 19:14, said:

Thinking about it more, I think I can just bid 4nt over 4♦, the ace of diamonds implied by 4♦ makes the formally useless ace of clubs useful for a diamond pitch.

Sigh, partner didn't speak to me for the rest of the tournament

Oh well, you've now discovered someone you don't want to play with again.
Spades were trumps. He obviously should not have passed 5C.

[billw55]

dwar0123, on 2011-December-28, 19:14, said:

Thinking about it more, I think I can just bid 4nt over 4♦, the ace of diamonds implied by 4♦ makes the formally useless ace of clubs useful for a diamond pitch.

Perhaps. Although some people will make cuebids below 4NT with a king, especially when they know the lead comes up to them. But I would not assume this with a pickup partner.

dwar0123, on 2011-December-28, 19:14, said:

Sigh, partner didn't speak to me for the rest of the tournament

*shrug* his problem. He should accept some responsibility. His pass of 5♣ seems to say that he was suddenly not so sure you had spades. Some people play systems off after NT overcalls, so this might be a reasonable fear.

With a new partner, I think 4♠ over 4♦ would be wiser, avoiding any confusion and highlighting the lack of a heart control. After this partner should have a good picture.