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Hand Evaluation What to bid?

#1 User is offline   BunnyGo 

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Posted 2011-December-19, 15:48

You hold:

QJ, J94, K7542, 864

All white in first seat, matchpoints. The auction:

P-(1D)-X-(P)
1N(agree?)-(P)-2H-(P)
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Now what?

(X and bid is stronger for us, 1H directly is bounded at about 17 pts)

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Posted 2011-December-19, 15:53

I would just bid 3H since it's MP and the DK is pretty meh. It is possible we have no entry to our hand. Maybe this is too wimpy.
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Posted 2011-December-19, 16:31

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-December-19, 15:53, said:

I would just bid 3H since it's MP and the DK is pretty meh. It is possible we have no entry to our hand. Maybe this is too wimpy.


I was even wimpier and passed figuring that my hand could easily be dead as dummy and force partner to play out of his hand the whole contract. I felt pretty bad about chickening out like that, but thought it was a reasonable matchpoint decision since he wasn't so strong to bid 2D or 3H and my hand has only been getting worse.
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Posted 2011-December-19, 16:55

Is 2♥ strong in this sequence? I don't know what is standard but partner would like to be able to bid 2♥ with something like Kxxx Axxxx x Axx.
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Posted 2011-December-19, 17:04

View Postnigel_k, on 2011-December-19, 16:55, said:

Is 2♥ strong in this sequence? I don't know what is standard but partner would like to be able to bid 2♥ with something like Kxxx Axxxx x Axx.


Partner would have bid 1♥ the first time with that hand. 2♥ should show a stronger hand.
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Posted 2011-December-19, 19:38

3♥ for me which should show a min 1NT response and 3 card support which is what you have, IMHO, since the K♦ and dub QJ♠ may not be carrying full weight. Partner will likely carry on to 4♥ but especially at MP I want to give him the chance to stop if he's min and he may even realize that my values are softish.
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Posted 2011-December-20, 07:23

Since you asked, I don't agree with 1NT, the hand is not quite strong enough IMO. I would bid 1♥ not liking it much.

On the actual auction I bid 4♥. If partner really has 18+ per your description I see no reason he can't hold the ♦A or Q, and also he very likely holds at least one spade honor.
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Posted 2011-December-20, 07:52

View Postbillw55, on 2011-December-20, 07:23, said:

Since you asked, I don't agree with 1NT, the hand is not quite strong enough IMO. I would bid 1♥ not liking it much.

Yes, and that is what makes our situation untenable, now. Partner will be assuming the values for a 1NT advance to the double which we don't have; 2H is forcing in that context, and we have created a mess.
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Posted 2011-December-20, 11:46

View Postnigel_k, on 2011-December-19, 16:55, said:

Is 2♥ strong in this sequence? I don't know what is standard but partner would like to be able to bid 2♥ with something like Kxxx Axxxx x Axx.

2♥ is strong but NF, overcall 1♥ on your hand.

I also agree you're underweight for 1N, but you have to bid 3♥ now, partner can be good enough that any minimum 1N with 3 hearts is all he needs.
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Posted 2011-December-21, 07:28

hmm, I suppose since I am subminimum for my bidding so far, maybe I should bid only 3♥ after all. If we are making partner will almost always go, since he thinks I have more than I actually do.

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Posted 2011-December-22, 02:04

View PostBunnyGo, on 2011-December-19, 16:31, said:

I was even wimpier and passed figuring that my hand could easily be dead as dummy and force partner to play out of his hand the whole contract. I felt pretty bad about chickening out like that, but thought it was a reasonable matchpoint decision since he wasn't so strong to bid 2D or 3H and my hand has only been getting worse.

That's certainly too pessimistic. Maybe partner has ♠K and can reach dummy in spades early without giving up a trick. LHO may be getting endplayed as well (possibly already at trick 2 after winning the diamond opening lead)- our ♦K is at least useful for that. Maybe trumps are 2-2 and we can ruff the 4th club and take a spade finesse. Etc.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 02:28

I agree with 1 NT and now i wld bid 3♥.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 16:31

I think 1nt and 3♥ are both pretty clear actions.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 17:53

3♥ - sure. Anyone tempted by 3N?
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Posted 2011-December-22, 21:13

View PostPhil, on 2011-December-22, 17:53, said:

3♥ - sure. Anyone tempted by 3N?


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