[helium]

Scoring: IMP

bidding whit west as dealer.(u are sout):
pass-pass-2nt-pass-pass-??

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2 NT is strong 20-21 balanced

Playing teams and this is last board. score is 18-21 so u are 3 imp behind.


whould you double or pass?

[inquiry]

Blah... team game Barometer... not real bridge.. estimate the probable results, calculate +/- imps for different actions, and do what gives you best chance of success... Of course under these conditions you double....

Next, do you double if you don't know this detail... ah there is the rub... but there is a fairly sound theory that all hands that begin 2NT-P-P- you should double, becuase it is hard to make with 20 opposite anything from a bust to 3 or 4 pts. I know some very good players who almost always double 2NT on this auction... until they have been burned a few times by tricky trap pass iwth more than 4 pts....

So, yes double.

Ben

[Fluffy]

open 1♦ first position
if you don´t let me I pass 2NT.

[BrianEDuran]

Hi

I think it depends on your teammates. They know the situation, it seems likely to me that they would push for game, or at least push for a swing. Doubleing them into game might give back what your teammates have worked so hard for in 3NT.

I find most players are unwilling to be the one to go back to the table and say, "I know I made a questionable bid, but I thought we needed the swing." It might be even hard to find teammates that will accept this. Will yours, when they make 3NT, but your let them make 2NTX?

Whether double is a good bid in general, Ben your expert.

Brian

[pclayton]

There is a legitimate chance that the opponents have a club (or spade) fit that cannot be found unless you double them.

I have more sympathy for a double if I hold a balanced 11 here (or more, if I wasn't a passed hand)

[inquiry]

The point is a double is likely to produce a swing. Sure, if it goes 2NT at both tables, and you set it one, and it makes at the other table, you are +220 without the double (and a quick +220 and 6 imps for a win. But more likely 2NT makies or is down at both tables, or it makes with or wtihout an overtrick at both tables. Knowing it is the last board, and knowing you need a swing of at least 3 points (down two versus down one to tie without double), doesn't that encourage you to take an action?

In team games, when I am down by 12 or more imps on board 7 (8 board match), I feel obliged to try to pick up imps on Seven... since board 8 is non-vul versus non-vul.... not good condition if you need 12 imps, even 10 is very hard to come by/// bidding a slam missed at the other table is only 11 imps (500 slam bonus).

Ben

[junyi_zhu]

helium, on Oct 14 2004, 08:37 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

bidding whit west as dealer.(u are sout):
pass-pass-2nt-pass-pass-??

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2 NT is strong 20-21 balanced

Playing teams and this is last board. score is 18-21 so u are 3 imp behind.


whould you double or pass?

Pass for sure. your hand is terrible, soft, stiff CQ and extremely hard for partner to
find diamond lead. Opps may often make 8-9 tricks with a long club suit and only 22 to 23 HCP. Something like this may happen, partner found a spade lead from Kxxx Qxxx Qx xxx,
you found dummy had only spade jack, but they made 10 tricks because opener happened to make a conservative 2NT opening with SATx HAx DAx CAKJxxx and dummy had Jxx xxx xxxx 9xx. Sadly enough, your teammates somehow gambled 3NT and made it.

[the hog]

Why did I pass the first time, was I asleep? Certainly pass now.

[Free]

If you pass this hand in first position, I'd certainly pass it in this situation... I don't see any reason to bid after a 2NT opener where all my forks are in front of a strong hand!

[helium]

Looks like the only one who whould dbl here exsept me is ben:)

this was the hand:

Scoring: IMP

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we got 1100 in and 16 imps:))
declerer can go for 800 but gave a extra trick when he tried an endplay.

And im like some of Bens frends, i have to have a very good excouse NOT to dbl 2 nt pass pass:)) it almoust never makes


kenneth

[junyi_zhu]

helium, on Oct 16 2004, 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like the only one who whould dbl here exsept me is ben:)

this was the hand:

Scoring: IMP

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we got 1100 in and 16 imps:))
declerer can go for 800 but gave a extra trick when he tried an endplay.

And im like some of Bens frends, i have to have a very good excouse NOT to dbl 2 nt pass pass:)) it almoust never makes


kenneth

change your partner's CJT to declarer and you may see what'll happen. It's pure luck and it's a losing decision for a long run for sure. I don't really mind doubling 2NT aggressively, but it should be based on a respectable hand, not something like yours.

[cf_John0]

Pass 'cause of formerly pass!

[luke warm]

open 1H ... since i didn't, i pass now... i've never ever ever seen a 2nt 3rd seat psych, vulnerable or not, but i sure think if i double, someone will find clubs (or spades)

[HeartA]

In general, I will pass. To have a swing, dbl for sure.