[Flem72]

Which set was the big loser for USA2? I couoldn't watch much of the 4th or 5th, so it must have been one of those? Is the complete set posted anywhere?

Regards and Happy Trails,

Scott Needham
Boulder, Colorado, USA

[CSGibson]

Flem72, on 2011-October-30, 09:57, said:

Which set was the big loser for USA2? I couoldn't watch much of the 4th or 5th, so it must have been one of those? Is the complete set posted anywhere?

Regards and Happy Trails,

Scott Needham
Boulder, Colorado, USA

www.bridgewinners.com

[A2003]

USA2 lost 10 or more IMPS 17 times.
Netherlands lost 10 or more IMPS 9 times.

If it is a (BAM) board a match game, USA2 wins 65 to 63.
USA2 won 44 boards.
Netherlands won 42 boards.
Rest 42 boards tie.

Looks like they lost it in session 3 after leading well in session 1 and 2.

[Phil]

Yes 3 and 4 were tough for the Americans. That was the first time in the entire tournament that they took such a hit and they couldn't regain form.

What I noticed in the 5th and 6th set was that one of the pairs was making a lot of good decisions and gaining a little steam while the other table was making silly penalty doubles and pressing to no-play games and such.

Overall the quality of cardplay signicantly decreased in the last two days as well I thought.

[aguahombre]

IMO, it is virtually a brain drain to try to quantify when looking at a long knockout match.

Of course, BAM anaysis has little value because it is IMP scored.

Setting an amount, above which is a significant swing, doesn't get it done, either. Those smaller scores add up as well. Plus, state of match decisions.

Opportunity costs must also be included. A push might well have been a 6 IMP win for one team or a 10-IMP win for the other side.

A team which analyzes its results on each board at one table against the actual results at the other table still cannot come up with anything real. Perhaps the pair at the other table could have done something to change the tenor of the auction or played the hand differently.

I suspect that if each team goes thru each board at both tables, they will conclude that they both should have lost the match.

From here, I was content to watch and enjoy the entire match. Maybe there were a few boo boo's, but I don't think they were due to fatigue like some commentators said. Congrats to both teams.

[PrecisionL]

Flem72, on 2011-October-30, 09:57, said:

Which set was the big loser for USA2? I couoldn't watch much of the 4th or 5th, so it must have been one of those? Is the complete set posted anywhere?

Regards and Happy Trails,

Scott Needham
Boulder, Colorado, USA

Session 3 and 4 were the biggest losts.

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[JLOGIC]

Phil, on 2011-October-30, 11:37, said:

Overall the quality of cardplay signicantly decreased in the last two days as well I thought.

Interesting, I thought the cardplay was poor on day 1 and good on days 2/3 (minus a couple of hands like me failing to unblock the SK).

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USA2 lost 10 or more IMPS 17 times.
Netherlands lost 10 or more IMPS 9 times.

And of course that is why we lost. ~80 imps on big deals is a lot. Many of those hands were slam decision hands. I felt that their team greatly outperformed ours on those hands by a sick margin, we were basically garbage on the slam hands in the finals.

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From here, I was content to watch and enjoy the entire match. Maybe there were a few boo boo's, but I don't think they were due to fatigue like some commentators said.

You hear it a lot, even the best players make some bad errors, but I think people expect the players in the finals of the bermuda bowl to be better than they are. Especially when 2 of the non-favorite teams make it to the final...well there's a reason we were not the favorites, we probably usually play worse than whoever the favorites are. Basically, several cardplay errors by each team in a 128 board final should be expected, and always happens. This is usually attributed to fatigue, but it is probably within the expectation during that many boards, peoples expectations are just too high. This might even be validated by looking at previous matches and saying "see, they played better in the earlier matches." Well, duh, the teams in the finals likely played better than expected to get there...that's why they got there.

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