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Posted 2011-October-16, 03:08

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3 by North would have been slam-interest
2NT-..-3 would have been minimal
Do you make another try? If you bid 4NT RKC and partner bids 5 (1 KC), do you bid 6?
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Posted 2011-October-16, 04:23

What are my cue bidding agreements ?

If I bid 4, what does it mean, and what are 4N/5 by responder over this ?

My inclination would be to bid 4, and (playing A/K cues), if partner doesn't show a club card, bid the slam, but not bid it if he does.
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Posted 2011-October-16, 04:48

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-October-16, 04:23, said:

What are my cue bidding agreements ?

If I bid 4, what does it mean, and what are 4N/5 by responder over this ?
4 is 1st/2nd control.
after that 4NT by responder is RKC and 5 is 1st/2nd control.

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-October-16, 04:23, said:

My inclination would be to bid 4, and (playing A/K cues), if partner doesn't show a club card, bid the slam, but not bid it if he does.

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Posted 2011-October-16, 04:51

Partner may just have a hand like xxxxx Kxxxx x xx. If 2n-3H is NF you would not want to miss game.

If he is as good as KQxxx Kxxx x xx then imo he should already be showing slam interest given that he is a passed hand.

I would pass 4H.
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Posted 2011-October-16, 05:57

View Postphil_20686, on 2011-October-16, 04:51, said:

Partner may just have a hand like xxxxx Kxxxx x xx. If 2n-3H is NF you would not want to miss game.

If he is as good as KQxxx Kxxx x xx then imo he should already be showing slam interest given that he is a passed hand.

I would pass 4H.

If 2N-3 is NF, then either the first or second hand you posted should be 2N-4 to distinguish the two.

Qxxxx, Kxxx, Jx, xx is a playable slam (as in no disaster, although you don't particularly want to be in it, make the Q the K and it becomes fine).
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Posted 2011-October-16, 11:44

partner has about 7 working HCP with 4 hearts, the only ones that make slam good are Kxxxx Kxxx Jx xx. And anything with club ace that makes on 2 fineses. Its imporant to note that partner is a passed hand and so he should bid 3 with more hands than if he wasn't.

Some bad breaks will kill even the good slams, I think its best to just pass.

If I for some reason decided to bid keycard then obviously I don't stay at the 5 level with only 1 keycard missing, I bid slam.
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Posted 2011-October-17, 10:04

View Postkgr, on 2011-October-16, 03:08, said:

IMP's Teams

We play Lebensohl.
3 by North would have been slam-interest
2NT-..-3 would have been minimal
Do you make another try? If you bid 4NT RKC and partner bids 5 (1 KC), do you bid 6?

I did try 4NT and did get a 5 response (3 or 0 of 5).
5 could make +1 because RHO had K.
I think partner had KQ. (he played the hand because we play T-Walsh)
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Posted 2011-October-17, 19:09

It depends on where pard has his high cards. If he has Kxxx Kxxx or better in the majors, slam is ok. If there are hcp lost in clubs, slam is rather hopeless. Since I don't have anyway to figure it out, I'll play safe and pass 4H.
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