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Preemptive, 16-20 total points?

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Posted 2011-October-01, 20:52

Strange description of 4♥. When GIB sat South, he opened 1♥. Additionally, eight human Souths opened 4♥; one West GIB made a takeout double and the other seven passed.

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Posted 2011-October-01, 21:25

All the expected short side suits add to the total points.

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Posted 2011-October-01, 21:50

View Postbarmar, on 2011-October-01, 21:25, said:

All the expected short side suits add to the total points.

Sorry, I don't understand your point. Are you trying to explain why the South hand fits the given description? GIB does not think it does, because it is not strong enough. Sitting South, GIB opens 1♥ then rebids 2♥ over 1NT forcing. I think the South hand is a textbook 4♥ opening, and GIB's definition of that bid should be modified to include this hand.
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Posted 2011-October-01, 21:58

I wouldn't consider it a reasonable bid against human beings in against vulnerabity- any other vul- fine. The singleton queen is not working HCP so its a marginal. Its got to be a good opening hand with 7 hearts in against vul.
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Posted 2011-October-03, 09:42

View Postcloa513, on 2011-October-01, 21:58, said:

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-October-01, 21:50, said:

I think the South hand is a textbook 4♥ opening, and GIB's definition of that bid should be modified to include this hand.

I wouldn't consider it a reasonable bid against human beings in against vulnerabity- any other vul- fine. The singleton queen is not working HCP so its a marginal. Its got to be a good opening hand with 7 hearts in against vul.

You are part of a very small minority on this question:
http://www.bridgebas...ow-many-hearts/
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