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#1 User is offline   frank0 

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Posted 2011-October-06, 01:01


Same opp and partner in previous two post
Lead was J north won it and return a trump. Even though Kx was on I didn't have entry/trump control to ruff both and unblock Q before drawing all trumps.

1. Was my analyze on declare play correct?
2. If it's impossible to make 5 even double dummy then comment on bidding.
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Posted 2011-October-06, 01:48

You can win the trump return in dummy and ruff a spade. Then take the club finesse and ruff another spade. Cash your last trump, lead a club to the ace and draw a third round of trumps. Then unblock clubs, concede a diamond and claim.

But I don't like the 5 bid and would probably have doubled instead.
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Posted 2011-October-06, 01:54

I won't really comment on the bidding, other than that you should be wary about bidding 5/4 with an 8 card trump fit, especially with no particularly redeeming features of your hand. That said, your analysis of the hand was inaccurate:

Play a heart. If south covers, win in dummy, ruff a spade high, club to the jack, ruff a spade high, heart to dummy and claim.

If south doesn't cover, ruff a spade, club to dummy, ruff a spade, high heart, club to dummy, draw the last trump and claim.

If the defense shifts to either black suit instead of a trump, the result is obviously the same. They must force dummy with a diamond ruff to beat you, because then the clubs are tangled.

(Edit: Originally thought you needed to play the ten of hearts, but you don't.)
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Posted 2011-October-06, 01:54

I missed an easy play :(
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Posted 2011-October-06, 05:08

View Postfrank0, on 2011-October-06, 01:01, said:


Same opp and partner in previous two post
Lead was J north won it and return a trump. Even though Kx was on I didn't have entry/trump control to ruff both and unblock Q before drawing all trumps.

1. Was my analyze on declare play correct?
2. If it's impossible to make 5 even double dummy then comment on bidding.

Partner's opening of 1 was pretty marginal to say the best but he did give you reasonable warning with only a raise to 2.
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Posted 2011-October-06, 21:47

View Postnigel_k, on 2011-October-06, 01:48, said:

You can win the trump return in dummy and ruff a spade. Then take the club finesse and ruff another spade. Cash your last trump, lead a club to the ace and draw a third round of trumps. Then unblock clubs, concede a diamond and claim.

But I don't like the 5 bid and would probably have doubled instead.

4 makes with slight different hands. Give North the Kx and South the AQJ8 and assuming West leads to AK, then South can guess to drop the K otherwise West doesn't have nominal opening hand.
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