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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2011-October-01, 09:24



who's got to bid 3♦? match points BTW
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Posted 2011-October-01, 09:57

I blame East. Why would his/her double show 3 diamonds?

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2011-October-01, 10:41

View PostFluffy, on 2011-October-01, 09:24, said:



who's got to bid Who has 3♦? match points BTW

FYP, so that it answers its own question. West must have either 3 spades, 4 hearts, or five diamonds on the auction ---with a minimum opposite East's shown minimum he would probably not act over 3C with any of those. 3D by East, rather than double is simple yet eligant.
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Posted 2011-October-01, 10:55

No blame. Why should anyone guess to bid 3D? From opener's point of view responder could very well be 5422. From responder's point of view opener could be 2344.

Stuff happens. Next.
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Posted 2011-October-01, 11:21

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-October-01, 10:55, said:

No blame. Why should anyone guess to bid 3D? From opener's point of view responder could very well be 5422. From responder's point of view opener could be 2344.

Stuff happens. Next.

2-3-4-4 opens one club in my style, but regardless it seems the opps have nine clubs. Responder has a pass with 5-4-2-2.
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Posted 2011-October-01, 17:24

I believe gonzalo opens 1D on 2344. Otherwise yeah, responder could draw the inference opener must have 5 diamonds.
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Posted 2011-October-01, 19:22

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-October-01, 17:24, said:

I believe gonzalo opens 1D on 2344. Otherwise yeah, responder could draw the inference opener must have 5 diamonds.

Why does anyone have to draw any inferences other than the opps have a club fit? East should just show his hand by bidding 3D and let West place the contract.
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Posted 2011-October-01, 19:43

Because it's not 100% sure our side has a fit. If East bids 3D and finds opener with 2344, he's gonna look silly.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 01:48

View Postaguahombre, on 2011-October-01, 11:21, said:

2-3-4-4 opens one club in my style, but regardless it seems the opps have nine clubs. Responder has a pass with 5-4-2-2.

According to my SAYC book its a 1♦ open.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 05:36

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-October-01, 19:43, said:

Because it's not 100% sure our side has a fit. If East bids 3D and finds opener with 2344, he's gonna look silly.


Silly? Surely pd has played a 4-3 at some point in his life. If not, then it's time he tried it.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 06:36

It's not silly to play the 4-3 fit, but it sure is to do it when opps were going for a set :)
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