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Where will you get? Majors misfit and 24 HCP

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2011-September-27, 11:00



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View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2011-September-27, 11:21

Once North opens the bidding you can't stop short of game. I usually open these but I'd be willing to bet that if I looked back at my results I would see that it is a loser. If one of the suits were spades then it would be an obvious opener. On this one, if you can keep from being doubled you may be ok.
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Posted 2011-September-27, 17:59

maybe


1h=1s
2d=2nt(12-13 invite)
p(any bid over 2nt i as play gf).


this also assumes we would often raise 1s with only 3s and shortness.
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Posted 2011-September-27, 18:30

The opening bid was fine. We haven't gone so far in resolving the responder paradox as to merely invite with the South hand (yet).

So, without resulting, we would probably end in 3NT or 5C. End is 3S, maybe if South decides to try 3S treated as damned near forcing after 1M-1S-2D (different from the invite it would be if opener were known to have a balanced hand).
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Posted 2011-September-28, 04:01

1H = 10-17, 5+ hearts
... - 1S = INV+ relay
1N = min, 0-3 spades
... - 2C = GF relay
2D = 4+ clubs
... - 2H = relay
2N = 5 spades, 4 clubs
... - 3C = relay
3D = 0-1 spades
... - 3S = diamond stop?
3N = yes

Perhaps the South hand should not GF opposite a light opening style but I think I would anyway, especially given we are vul at IMPs. The alternative over 1N would be 2S (invitational with 5+ spades), then 2NT - 3C - P would be possible.
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Posted 2011-September-28, 04:57

View Postmike777, on 2011-September-27, 17:59, said:

maybe


1h=1s
2d=2nt(12-13 invite)
p(any bid over 2nt i as play gf).


this also assumes we would often raise 1s with only 3s and shortness.



I find it really hard to believe that anyone as South would give partner a chance to pass below game. I am absolutely sure that Mike would not at the table, only in a forum where he can see both hands.
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Posted 2011-September-28, 06:34

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-September-27, 11:00, said:



Imp's

Using Meckwell GF gadget for the 1H - 1S, 2D rebid auction:
1H - 1S
2D - 2S! ( artificial GF )
3C - 3NT

Or without the gadget, use the 2C rebid which allows for a cheap 4th suit GF :
1H - 1S
2C - 2D! ( 4th suit GF )
3D - 3NT
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Posted 2011-September-28, 07:01

Hi,

#1 1H is fine.
#2 South will force to game.

1H - 1S
2C (1) - 2D (2)
2H (3) - 3C (4)
3NT (5) - all pass

(1) given the suit quality, 2D may be better, but
I know we have a 44 fit in clubs
Depening on style in place, 2C may not even promise
4 cards, contrary to 2D, so 2D may be the stand out
bid, ... but I know we have a 44 fit in clubs, ...
(2) FSF
(3) min
(4) GF, the alternative would be 3S, showing the 6th spade,
but since p denied 3 cards, and the spade suit is not
brilliant 3C, p can still show secondary spade support
(5) what else, should also deny something like Hx in spade

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Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2011-September-28, 14:03

My Auction:

1H - 1S
2D - 3C
3NT - P

2 = hopefully I can bid 3 next to bid out my shape
3= generic game force - when I have 13 points and partner opens we go to game no matter how much anyone hates it
3NT = I have a club stopper and no other descriptive bid
Pass = seems like a good time to make a sandwich
If no one comes from the future to stop you from doing it then how bad a decision could it really be?
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Posted 2011-September-28, 14:41

How about rebidding 2C? It has the great advantage that partner can bid 2D as fourth suit GF, over which you can bid 3D showing 0-5-4-4 shape.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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