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19 balanced, LHO overcalls 1NT

#21 User is offline   aguahombre 

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Posted 2011-September-27, 19:53

O.k., there are people who play their normal two-suited bid system after a 1NT overcall. I just didn't see that in the OP conditions. Or was it just so obvious it doesn't even have to be alerted or explained?

To me, QXXXXX of hearts and out would not be an opening wk two, and what I expected pard to have.
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Posted 2011-September-27, 22:22

View Postkenrexford, on 2011-September-27, 18:39, said:

I don't understand how you can get so close to logical reasoning and then veer off into the crazy ditch.

Partner won't have better than five lousy hearts, or else he would have opened 2♥, except...

If this call is systemically (as I play it) showing a fit, he has a heart-club two-suiter, which explains how he gets the right to bid a cruddy suit at this level in this auction.

Without that agreement, then no one has made the obvious alternative analysis -- partner has four spades. So, we also have a spade fit? That makes it interesting. It certianly makes 3NT bizarre. Who plays 3NT with a 9-card heart fit AND a 4-4 spade fit?

Or, is 3NT meant as some sexy new "choice of major games" try?



If xx KJxxxx xxx xx is a 2H opener in first chair, then we just can't agree on this.

There's nothing in the original post about these kinds of bids showing multiple meanings. xx KQxxx xx 10xxx is fine for 3NT.

The ONLY argument against 3NT is w/w at matchpoints, partner's hand could really suck if he's feeling frisky.
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Posted 2011-September-28, 06:28

This depends a lot on who partner is obviously, it was my first time with this partner and you can't believe he actually held ♠x ♥QJxxxxx ♦x ♣K9xx

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Posted 2011-September-28, 06:35

True point, about weak two's. If partner is a purist, he might have anything.
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Posted 2011-September-28, 14:53

Partner should bid 3H imo.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-September-28, 14:53

I meant over 1NT, although I would also open 3H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-September-28, 17:12

View Posthan, on 2011-September-28, 14:53, said:

I meant over 1NT, although I would also open 3H.



agreed on both counts. Even if partner passes and bids 3H now, 4H is a clear bid.
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Posted 2011-September-29, 06:12

It's an obvious 3H opener, if not 4H. How are you supposed to guess that? LOL
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