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Posted 2004-October-04, 19:05

This is a nice double dummy.
If you get it right, you will know, so maybe you better not kill it for others too early.
You are in 6 and west leads a diamond.
you play 6
West lead A

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Posted 2004-October-04, 19:43

When EAST shows out on the first diamond, this is double dummy without showing the hands I think....

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Posted 2004-October-04, 19:53

SadlyI knew this one from long ago, here is a small variant, but this time is defence:



The contract is 6NT, defeat the contract after a K lead.
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Posted 2004-October-05, 11:43

Win Diamond ACE,

Cash AQJ of clubs, throwing diamonds from dummy, and a club to EAST..

If he leads spade jack, win in dummy, come back to spade Ten.. if he leads low spade, win Ten... if he leads heart, claim...

Can the defense really hold the day?

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Posted 2004-October-05, 11:46

inquiry, on Oct 5 2004, 12:43 PM, said:

Win Diamond ACE,

Cash AQJ of clubs, throwing diamonds from dummy, and a club to EAST..

If he leads spade jack, win in dummy, come back to spade Ten.. if he leads low spade, win Ten... if he leads heart, claim...

Can the defense really hold the day?

Ben

Maybe the positon of the A and K of club should be reversed.
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Posted 2004-October-05, 17:05

doesn't matter.. toss the A on a heart then lead clubs for the endplay
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Posted 2004-October-06, 04:36

I am so sorry, I made a mistake on the hadn, this is teh real problem:



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Posted 2004-October-06, 04:48

If you are talking about first deal Jimmy I think you are wrong, it is doble dummy for all players, east won´t be endplayed with J, more likelly west will cash 4 tricks.
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Posted 2004-October-06, 04:56

Fluffy, on Oct 6 2004, 05:48 AM, said:

If you are talking about first deal Jimmy I think you are wrong,  it is doble dummy for all players, east won´t be endplayed with J, more likelly west will cash 4 tricks.

Are you sure we dont have the 9 of club ? my brain is smoking.
Well i dont think it can be made if east play heart on the first round.
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Posted 2004-October-06, 05:20

Fluffy, on Oct 6 2004, 10:36 AM, said:

I am so sorry, I made a mistake on the hadn, this is teh real problem:



Keep S2. Declarer is helpless.
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Posted 2004-October-06, 11:46

Flame, on Oct 6 2004, 10:56 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Oct 6 2004, 05:48 AM, said:

If you are talking about first deal Jimmy I think you are wrong,  it is doble dummy for all players, east won´t be endplayed with J, more likelly west will cash 4 tricks.

Are you sure we dont have the 9 of club ? my brain is smoking.
Well i dont think it can be made if east play heart on the first round.

This surprises me so much, since a discard leads to exactly the same problem you posted with the same solution for declarer.
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Posted 2004-October-06, 13:17

:D ;) :D :)
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Posted 2004-October-06, 16:38

lol, I see :)
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Posted 2004-October-06, 17:39

Fluffy, on Oct 6 2004, 12:48 PM, said:

If you are talking about first deal Jimmy I think you are wrong,  it is doble dummy for all players, east won´t be endplayed with J, more likelly west will cash 4 tricks.

i must have a blind spot fluffy... either east or west will be endplayed, and south still has 2 trumps to handle diamonds... what am i missing (talking about the hand where i toss the A on a heart

and on the real hand, man i must be too tired to understand the problem... either east ruffs the diamond or he doesn't... if he does, go to A, K of clubs on board and lead spades... if he discards it looks like you can play the same line

i admit i don't understand fly's post, keep 2 when, where?
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Posted 2004-October-06, 23:16

luke warm, on Oct 6 2004, 06:39 PM, said:

and on the real hand, man i must be too tired to understand the problem... either east ruffs the diamond or he doesn't... if he does, go to A, K of clubs on board and lead spades... if he discards it looks like you can play the same line

There are usually no ruffs in NT contrcts.
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Posted 2004-October-07, 03:39

ahhhh yes, i was in 6H per the first hand... anyway, i still can't see how an endplay on that hand fails
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Posted 2004-October-07, 05:58

Hi
I'm a bit confused and not sure, who is talking about which hand.
I have seen no solution for the original 6 (or did I overlook something?) and I'm very interested, because I can't solve.
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Posted 2004-October-07, 06:01

well jimmy, you have only 5 trumps
oppponents have 4
so after first tricks you have the same
and have to draw trumps, after that you are virtually playing NT
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Posted 2004-October-07, 11:16

Fluffy, on Oct 7 2004, 02:01 PM, said:

well jimmy, you have only 5 trumps
oppponents have 4
so after first tricks you have the same
and have to draw trumps, after that you are virtually playing NT

i'm lost... i count 6 trumps in hand with the A on the board... trump the first diamond, play A throwing A, play K, Q (leaving 3) and another, throwing west in (east unblocked the J)... seems to work to me
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Posted 2004-October-07, 13:06

AKQJ10 is just 5, count agiain, it is 6 characters but only 5 cards ;)

AKQJT if you prefer :lol:
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