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All Robot bid descriptions could be computer scanned to see where there are more than 13 cards in one hand!
A recent example is
1H 1NT
2C 2D
2S all pass
where the 2S bid was described as "4+C; 3-D; 5+H; 4+S; 14-18 total points"
The bidding does clearly suggest a 4,5,0,4 pattern. Why are diamonds "3-" and as 13 cards are accounted for perhaps the "+" signs could be removed?
Perhaps after the auto scan finds all strange descriptions for subsequent automated correction a second pass could represent the length holdings in the international accepted and standard sequence of S,H,D,C and remove all "+" signs where 13 cards are accounted for.
This would represent a big improvement in the bid descriptions.
If the Robot bidding algorithms then employed the bid newly improved and structured bid descriptions this might significantly and further improve accuracy in Robot bidding with relatively little additional programming effort.
In business. ideas with little effort for potentially high reward are always worth investigating. What do you feel?
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Another description bug?
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Posted 2011-September-08, 01:30
Probably not little effect with the programming like it is.
While mentioning diamonds at all is silly 0 is within 3- which means 3 or less. It does come out as 13 cards exactly. There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is.
While mentioning diamonds at all is silly 0 is within 3- which means 3 or less. It does come out as 13 cards exactly. There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is.
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Posted 2011-September-08, 10:12
cloa513, on 2011-September-08, 01:30, said:
Probably not little effect with the programming like it is.
While mentioning diamonds at all is silly 0 is within 3- which means 3 or less. It does come out as 13 cards exactly. There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is.
While mentioning diamonds at all is silly 0 is within 3- which means 3 or less. It does come out as 13 cards exactly. There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is.
Hi Cloa513,
I have compassion for all those that appear to possess such a despairing approach to (working) life.
Life (which includes work) can be fun rather than frustrating if you choose to make it so.
It might pay you to see the place/state your words appear to come from.
"Probably not little effect with programming like it is" - Fred will fail to leverage the full value of the GIB potential and will be eventually overtaken by others. Such can be business and is not your problem as such but all of us users and workers alike are impacted by this unfortunate approach. Perhaps trying to change Freds business priorities would be more fulfilling for you and all the BBO staff. Or you will have to remain mostly in defensive mode and repeatedly note (elsewhere) that this problem or that problem keeps recurring until programming resources change.
Has the change in programming resources kept pace with even 30% of the last 2 years growth in user numbers? Are users involved in setting priorities?
"3- which means 3 or less" - it rarely pays to assume stupidity in others when conversing.
"There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is." - the concept of there being lots of mistaken descriptions is not a reason to despair and do little but to engage with enthusiasm to eat the elephant one slice at a time.
Look to the future not reasons to continue behaving as you done in the last two years. Cheer up!
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Posted 2011-September-08, 17:13
calm01, on 2011-September-08, 10:12, said:
Hi Cloa513,
I have compassion for all those that appear to possess such a despairing approach to (working) life.
Life (which includes work) can be fun rather than frustrating if you choose to make it so.
It might pay you to see the place/state your words appear to come from.
"Probably not little effect with programming like it is" - Fred will fail to leverage the full value of the GIB potential and will be eventually overtaken by others. Such can be business and is not your problem as such but all of us users and workers alike are impacted by this unfortunate approach. Perhaps trying to change Freds business priorities would be more fulfilling for you and all the BBO staff. Or you will have to remain mostly in defensive mode and repeatedly note (elsewhere) that this problem or that problem keeps recurring until programming resources change.
Has the change in programming resources kept pace with even 30% of the last 2 years growth in user numbers? Are users involved in setting priorities?
"3- which means 3 or less" - it rarely pays to assume stupidity in others when conversing.
"There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is." - the concept of there being lots of mistaken descriptions is not a reason to despair and do little but to engage with enthusiasm to eat the elephant one slice at a time.
Look to the future not reasons to continue behaving as you done in the last two years. Cheer up!
I have compassion for all those that appear to possess such a despairing approach to (working) life.
Life (which includes work) can be fun rather than frustrating if you choose to make it so.
It might pay you to see the place/state your words appear to come from.
"Probably not little effect with programming like it is" - Fred will fail to leverage the full value of the GIB potential and will be eventually overtaken by others. Such can be business and is not your problem as such but all of us users and workers alike are impacted by this unfortunate approach. Perhaps trying to change Freds business priorities would be more fulfilling for you and all the BBO staff. Or you will have to remain mostly in defensive mode and repeatedly note (elsewhere) that this problem or that problem keeps recurring until programming resources change.
Has the change in programming resources kept pace with even 30% of the last 2 years growth in user numbers? Are users involved in setting priorities?
"3- which means 3 or less" - it rarely pays to assume stupidity in others when conversing.
"There are many silly descriptions which don't respresent the hands or what GIB thinks the opponent's hand is." - the concept of there being lots of mistaken descriptions is not a reason to despair and do little but to engage with enthusiasm to eat the elephant one slice at a time.
Look to the future not reasons to continue behaving as you done in the last two years. Cheer up!
If you knew 3- meant 3 or less then you have to agree GIB hasn't shown more than 13 cards.
I don't use GIB, I just enjoy watching others use this faulty software and underdocumented software. It is so underdocumented, the system card is 2 pages, there is a whole lot more in GIB's bidding processes.
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