[Wackojack]

In the late 70's a friend of mine when taking time off after university study developed a forcing pass system. I have played this system socially. It was great fun and I thought it was well thought out and quite potent both as an accurate 2-handed system and a destructive 4-handed system. Browsing your forum I have seen references to fp systems.

The opening bids are:

Pass = 0-7 or 17+. Responder bids 1C with 0-7 or 17+. Then opener with 0-7 bids 1D and with 17+ makes other bids fairly naturally.

1C = 13-16 and a suited hand. Then 1D asks and other bids fairly natural.
1D = 8-12 balanced. Then 1H asks and other bids to play or pre-emptive.
1H/1S = 8-12 with 5 or more cards
1NT = 13-16 balanced
2C/2D = 8-12 at least 5 in minor
2H/2S =4441
After opener has passed and responder has 8-16, 1D and 1NT are unchanged and 2 bids extend to 8-16.

Does anybody know of a similar recognised forcing pass system?

My friend remembers in the 80's at a tournament in London he showed the system to a Polish player who became quite excited exclaiming " Oh it is an ambiguous forcing pass"

[the hog]

Nardin and Lodge played a Precision system that had 1C as 0-4 or 16+.
(Now that shows my age!)
That is the only system I can think of that has similarities to this. I don't like the structure as I think it is far too open to intervention.

[Flame]

nice system, didnt get into it, but i like everything but 1c, i would prefer the openings to show 8-16 and be natural.

[hrothgar]

Reminds me a bit of TRS as well as the Vulcan Variable Pass from "Enterprising Tales"

[the hog]

Was going to mention TRS, but that had an intermediate pass. Love the 1Major openings in TRS, 0-2 or 5+ in that suit.

[hrothgar]

hrothgar, on Oct 15 2004, 02:09 AM, said:

Reminds me a bit of TRS as well as the Vulcan Variable Pass from "Enterprising Tales"

Just doubled checked my book collection:

This is VERY similar to the system from Enterprising tales

[Gerben47]

Well, I recognize something like my home-bred forcing pass system.

http://www.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de/~di...e/tuebpass.html

If you would like to play this on BBO let me know!

[MarceldB]

There is a similarity with the system "Sandgroper" by Ian Casselton (Aus)

Pass=
0-6 any shape,
7-12 4432/4333/4441
17+ bal. or 4441

1C same
1NT same

1x and 2C= 7-12 or 17+ all 1 step transfer

2D=7-12 54+ D and an other
2H= 7-12 55+ no spades
2S= 7-12 55+ with spades
2NT=weak prempt.C, sound preempt. D

Marcel