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#1 User is offline   Sharson 

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Posted 2011-August-11, 07:16

my partner opened 1 diamond and left hand opponent doubled. I had 4 spades, King high and 7 HCP. My response to opener bid was 1 spade. Partner thought I should pass after the double, I thought I should show points and major suit.
Just wondering for the next time this happens what is best response to opener?
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Posted 2011-August-11, 07:19

1S is fine. Just bid your hand normally. Partner's still allowed to have spades and raise, have hearts and bid 1N, have clubs and bid 2C, or have long diamonds and bid 2D -- knowing of course that you're not broke.

At the very least, they can no longer bid 1H.
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Posted 2011-August-11, 07:46

Agree with Wyman. By the way, I think you meant to say your RHO doubled, not your LHO (unless you play brIdge counter-clockwise).
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Posted 2011-August-11, 08:16

I think you really should show a 4 card S suit, o may have doubled on a 3 card stack, and you show 6+ hcp, so p has an idea, how to go on
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Posted 2011-August-11, 08:37

There was a time when it was commonplace for responder to change the requirements for a free bid after RHO made a takeout double. Now it is virtually universal that responder essentially ignores the takeout double and makes the bid he would have made had there been no takeout double.

1 is the normal bid on your cards (assuming that there was nothing else remarkable about the hand other than Kxxx of spades and a 7 count).
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Posted 2011-August-11, 11:15

Some people play that responses over a TO double should show a 5 card suit. Just a matter of agreement.

Just tell your partner s/he shouldn't get too excited after your response over a TO double as you might XX if you have 10+ HCP.

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Posted 2011-August-11, 11:59

I think it depends a lot on the field. A lot of people just double with any 4-3-3-3 and 12 HCPs. I think 1 is a very reasonable bid under the circumstances.
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Posted 2011-August-11, 12:11

View PostVM1973, on 2011-August-11, 11:59, said:

I think it depends a lot on the field.


No, it doesn't.

This is a B/I question, and there is a very clear answer. The only thing this may depend on is -- as with all things in bridge -- what you've agreed with partner a priori.
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Posted 2011-August-12, 23:45

View Postwyman, on 2011-August-11, 12:11, said:

No, it doesn't.

This is a B/I question, and there is a very clear answer. The only thing this may depend on is -- as with all things in bridge -- what you've agreed with partner a priori.



Agree with this. 1S is the obvious bid to make. By the way, I don't know of anyone who thinks it should show a 5 card suit.
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Posted 2011-August-13, 04:54

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-August-11, 11:15, said:

Some people play that responses over a TO double should show a 5 card suit. Just a matter of agreement.

Just tell your partner s/he shouldn't get too excited after your response over a TO double as you might XX if you have 10+ HCP.

The modern style is that 1 is forcing. Partner shouldn't read too much into the fact that you didn't redouble.
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Posted 2011-August-14, 22:59

Passing shows the same hand as passing with no takeout double - less than 6 HCP.

Redouble shows 10+ HCP with a defensive hand. You can still have 10+ HCP and make a suit bid if you are not interested in penalising the opponents (you have an offensive hand or you have good support for partner).
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