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#1 User is offline   chuck11 

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Posted 2011-August-10, 11:27

Not sure whether there is a problem with the bidding or just the tooltip (nevermind the problem with my chronic overbidding), but when you hover the 3H bid made by GIB, it indicates 6+ hearts and 11+ HCPs. Obviously GIB had neither. Was GIB just feeling frisky, or am I reading the tooltip wrong?

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Posted 2011-August-10, 11:42



The explanation is correct. Just North simulated to bid 3♥ instead of pass ( which are both considered before to pick one ).

The pass seems correct, but in this case the percentages draw 3H probably.

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Posted 2011-August-10, 11:44

Also, it says 11 or less HCP and 11-12 TP not 11-12HCP. GIB has 10TP in its hand here.

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Posted 2011-August-10, 11:53

Note that you are expected to make a support redouble with 3 hearts, which is why the explanation of North's 3♥ bid specifies 6+H. But I agree with your bottom line that GIB's bids should match their explanations.
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Posted 2011-August-10, 12:02

View Postgeorgi, on 2011-August-10, 11:42, said:

The explanation is correct. Just North simulated to bid 3♥ instead of pass ( which are both considered before to pick one ).

The pass seems correct, but in this case the percentages draw 3H probably.

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It appears to me that 15 out of 15 Norths who faced this same decision chose to bid 3♥. If GIB would "always" bid 3♥ in this auction, the description should say "5+H", not "6+H".
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Posted 2011-August-11, 02:59

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-August-10, 11:53, said:

Note that you are expected to make a support redouble with 3 hearts, which is why the explanation of North's 3♥ bid specifies 6+H. But I agree with your bottom line that GIB's bids should match their explanations.

If you give a support redouble, GIB bids spades which is incidentally explained as including 4+H.
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Posted 2011-August-11, 04:34

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-August-10, 12:02, said:

http://online.bridge...sername=chuck11
It appears to me that 15 out of 15 Norths who faced this same decision chose to bid 3♥. If GIB would "always" bid 3♥ in this auction, the description should say "5+H", not "6+H".


The 3♥ without support redouble is certainly bid needing 6cards in the hearts. The problem here seems to be the simulation result pretending GIB having more then it has. 1 heart and 1 tp off. GIB is not supposed always to bid 3♥ here, even it would rarely pick that bid, especially without support.


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If you give a support redouble, GIB bids spades which is incidentally explained as including 4+H.


You mean that if you rebid redouble, North will/might/should bid 3♠?

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Posted 2011-August-11, 06:55

View Postgeorgi, on 2011-August-11, 04:34, said:

View Postcloa513, on 2011-August-11, 02:59, said:

If you give a support redouble, GIB bids spades which is incidentally explained as including 4+H.
You mean that if you rebid redouble, North will/might/should bid 3♠?
It means he bothered to look at the auctions held at the other tables, instead of making up an answer, and he observed that whenever South redoubles, West bids 2♣ and North bids 2♠ (not 3) to show invitational values.
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Posted 2011-August-11, 07:02

View Postgeorgi, on 2011-August-11, 04:34, said:

GIB is not supposed always to bid 3♥ here, even it would rarely pick that bid, especially without support.

But, based on the available evidence (15 tables), GIB does always bid 3♥ here, and this is what OP is complaining about.
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