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whereagles, on 2011-August-20, 11:19, said:
Don't you have a precision three-suited short diamonds 2♦ for this sort of hand?
You mean a three-suited short hearts 2♦?
What to open in a precision based system
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Posted 2011-August-20, 16:43
You mean a three-suited short hearts 2♦?
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Posted 2011-August-20, 17:19
Ah right. Well, in that case you're either left with 2C or 1D... Which to choose depends on the "brand" of precision you're playing. Think it's 2C here.
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Posted 2011-August-24, 15:39
1♦ is cleary the right system bid. I suspect you will find books with similar hands opening 1♦ and i would rebid 1♠ over 1♥, placing a club with my diamonds if need be
So of these rules are too limiting.
to have a 1♠ need 4 ♦ to bid. This could end up forcing responder to go to 2 level in search for a fit or missing a spade fit entirely if responder doesnt have the values to act over 1NT
To require a 2♣ also to show 4♦ is limiting. There are a lot of 1-4-3-5 hands where you may not want to rebid 1NT with a singleton, so want to show your club suit, so partner can evealute their hand and your not stong wnough to reverse into hearts
1NT is a reasonable opening, with Kx we wouldnt even queston it.
So of these rules are too limiting.
to have a 1♠ need 4 ♦ to bid. This could end up forcing responder to go to 2 level in search for a fit or missing a spade fit entirely if responder doesnt have the values to act over 1NT
To require a 2♣ also to show 4♦ is limiting. There are a lot of 1-4-3-5 hands where you may not want to rebid 1NT with a singleton, so want to show your club suit, so partner can evealute their hand and your not stong wnough to reverse into hearts
1NT is a reasonable opening, with Kx we wouldnt even queston it.
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Posted 2011-August-24, 19:31
Personally i dont like 2♣ bid here either, but i think its lesser evil than others.
Best part of precision is that unless prd opens 1 ♣ his hand is limited under 16 or what ever u std is hcp. Worst part of precision is the lack of "natural" minor suit openings; but u just have to live with it.
2 ♣ opening is the one with u most likely run into troubles, but here it describes u shape and strenght accurately and gives u prd a chance to make something out of it. Yes, i would like to have some high cards in my ♣ suit too, but it aint perfect world.
Best part of precision is that unless prd opens 1 ♣ his hand is limited under 16 or what ever u std is hcp. Worst part of precision is the lack of "natural" minor suit openings; but u just have to live with it.
2 ♣ opening is the one with u most likely run into troubles, but here it describes u shape and strenght accurately and gives u prd a chance to make something out of it. Yes, i would like to have some high cards in my ♣ suit too, but it aint perfect world.