[mr1303]

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What say you? 1st seat NV

[whereagles]

1♦ + 3♦ rebid.

Prefer this to 1NT because if pard transfers, I lack entries to be able to enjoy the diamonds.

[aguahombre]

Really dislike 1♦, then 3♦ with a balanced hand and a 7 LTC.

In the old days, we could break a transfer or Stayman with 2NT after opening 1NT to show a solid 6-card minor (no primes outside). But today, such action would throw a monkey wrench in the NT structure; so either open 1NT and behave, or open 1D and under-rebid 2D.

Probably just opening 1NT (15-17) would be our choice of least bad actions.

[benlessard]

1D followed by 2D at imps. A 15-17 1Nt at MP. I agree that 1D-3D is a poor bid

[mike777]

1nt


again rather deal with issues/prblems over 1nt.
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prefer to open 1nt offshape very often.

[Mbodell]

Easy 1nt for me (assuming a strong 15-17 nt, if a weak nt I'd bid 1♦ planning to rebid 1nt obv).

[Phil]

A trick source and two major suit tenaces crying to be protected? 1N!

[matmat]

benlessard, on 2011-July-24, 22:18, said:

1D followed by 2D at imps. A 15-17 1Nt at MP. I agree that 1D-3D is a poor bid

I don't understand this, you're rebidding 2♦ at the form of scoring where bidding games matters a lot?

I open 1NT at both forms of scoring, but if someone twisted my arm into opening 1♦ I'd have a tough time not rebidding 2NT or 3♦ on this hand.

[mich-b]

1NT , especially NV.
Vul I might open 1♦ , since 1NT can easily be down 3 or down 4.
Having opened 1D , I would rebid 2♦ , not 3♦.

[ggwhiz]

At any form of scoring I want my partner declaring all notrump contracts.

1♦ followed by 2♦ seems like enough since pard knows the value of getting to an imp game too. If pard annoys me by bidding both majors, I might trot out 3♣ in an effort to endplay her into bidding 3nt.

[xxhong]

This is not a good 14, so 1D is quite normal. You need quite a lot from partner to make 3NT, like AKxx Jxxx x QJxx, so it really doesn't hurt to open 1D and rebid 2D here.

mr1303, on 2011-July-24, 15:53, said:

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What say you? 1st seat NV

[matmat]

ggwhiz, on 2011-July-25, 10:54, said:

At any form of scoring I want my partner declaring all notrump contracts.

Do you really want your QT doubletons led through?

[VM1973]

I'll bid 1♦ and see how it goes. For sure if my LHO bids 1♥ or 1♠ I'm going to take a dim view of the value of the holdings in that suit. On the other hand, if it goes 1♦-P-1♠-P I would probably bid 3♦.

I don't believe in opening 1NT 14-18 because of subjective non-quantifiable feel-of-the-hand considerations. At any rate, if anything this hand should be downgraded.

[mikeh]

Start thinking about what hands partner needs to make game (or better) good, and it's not easy to come up with hands on which he'd pass 1♦ then 2♦. I don't mind upgrading, and I don't mind, in principle, the odd 6 card minor 1N, but I'd like to have at least one side stopper, and here I have merely 2 half-stoppers.I'd also like to have the defence 1N suggests, and the ability to stop more than one suit should partner pass.

Yes, by opening 1N I may...not will....increase the chances that we are right-siding the contract, but using that as the deciding factor strikes me as an attempt to justify our desire to grab dummy.

I can see 1N as more plausible in a mp field, especially a weak one where I need to score a big game to win...the weaker the field, the higher the score one needs, so one has to take chances on zeros in order to accumulate tops.

And if the hand doesn't belong to us in game, I suspect that:

1) we'll want a diamond lead if LHO is on play
2) we'll want to compete in diamonds on many hands where they bid a major. While we can do that ourselves, after 1N, it is more of a guessing game, and easier for the opps to go right if they know we're balanced.
3) we're going to hate playing this hand in 1N when they run one suit then another, and we hope we can stop the 3rd suit

So put me down for the stodgy 1♦ (the thought of rebidding 3♦ makes me ill)

[gnasher]

I'd open 1NT, partly to protect my queens, partly for preemptive reasons, and partly because I just like opening 1NT.

[whereagles]

mikeh, on 2011-July-25, 16:24, said:

(the thought of rebidding 3♦ makes me ill)

Here. This will help:

[whereagles]

gnasher, on 2011-July-25, 16:38, said:

I'd open 1NT, partly to protect my queens, partly for preemptive reasons, and partly because I just like opening 1NT.

If you're going to hide the real reason, i.e. you want to hog the hand, you might as well use the textbook political quote I open 1♦ "for safety reasons"

[benlessard]

matmat, on 2011-July-24, 23:53, said:

I don't understand this, you're rebidding 2♦ at the form of scoring where bidding games matters a lot?

Ive tried to find a a good game that i would reach after opening 1Nt but fail to reach after opening 1D but there is not too many of them.

Something like

AJTx
Jxx
xx
QJxxx

However i can see plenty of hands where a 2D rebid will send you into a better contract.

Rebidding 3D or 2Nt is a joke

[whereagles]

Here's your joke-r. Sorry, couldn't find one holding a 3♦ bidding card