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Posted 2011-July-16, 10:42

I could have, should have splintered and even without the lead it makes, but we would not have been doubled :)
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Posted 2011-July-16, 10:45

If it goes 1H dbl 3S 4S it's not clear what everyone should do now. I guess N could try 5C and S can just bid the slam?
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Posted 2011-July-16, 10:48

View Postjjbrr, on 2011-July-16, 10:41, said:

did west really crack 6H or was it east?

I'd have bid 3S over the double, though i agree with Phil that 4D if fitted is OK as well as 2NT. I also agree that psyching 1S on this particular hand is losing bridge. The hand is strong enough that slam is certainly reasonable opposite some minimum openers, so there's no reason to bid defensively. Just tell partner what you have.

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Posted 2011-July-16, 10:51

Are you guys playing 1 (X) 3/4 as fit jumps and don't have splinters ?
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Posted 2011-July-16, 11:26

View Postjillybean, on 2011-July-16, 10:51, said:

Are you guys playing 1 (X) 3/4 as fit jumps and don't have splinters ?


This was discussed a few weeks ago. Both are playable; I prefer fitted.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 11:56

I think after 1M (X), the frequency of a 2-suit fit --and if we find it not getting our side suit roughed slants the preference in favor of splinters.

The availability of transfer responses might also be a factor in whether to employ fit jumps.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 11:58

View Postjillybean, on 2011-July-16, 10:51, said:

Are you guys playing 1 (X) 3/4 as fit jumps and don't have splinters ?



View PostPhil, on 2011-July-16, 11:26, said:

This was discussed a few weeks ago. Both are playable; I prefer fitted.


Gwnn, can you link me to the thread please!
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Posted 2011-July-16, 16:34

View PostPhil, on 2011-July-16, 09:57, said:

Psyching 1 is a very bad idea. This gives LHO four ways to bid spades (double, 2, 3 and 4). 4 at least puts significant pressure on LHO and only gives one call to show spades.


I clicked the upvote button for the 1st time in my life lol. A pretty convincing case against the 1 psyche. I never thought of it that way.
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