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variation on a theme stayman over 2cl?

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Posted 2011-July-07, 02:26

was kibbing a player,but did not witness any action.
but on his profile it stated 2cl-3cl ------ is STAYMAN.
INTERESTING--SO I ASSUME 2D RESPONSE =NO 4 CARD MAJOR.
scenario you hold as responder KQ10x--jxx--1098x-98 s/h/d/c so 3cl
can hold 1 major or 2 majors.
or 4/4/2/3 with same values hence 3cl
or 2/3/4/4 with same values hence 2d

so if responder has a 5 card suit minor wise and same values

I presume it goes 2cl 2d 2n/t 3nt amen
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Posted 2011-July-07, 02:29

View Postpirate22, on 2011-July-07, 02:26, said:

or 4/4/2/4 with same values hence 3cl

Need to count to 13 and not beyond. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2011-July-07, 02:30

ok clever dick deduct a minor card
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Posted 2011-July-07, 02:32

ammended
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Posted 2011-July-07, 02:56

View Postpirate22, on 2011-July-07, 02:26, said:

was kibbing a player,but did not witness any action.
but on his profile it stated 2cl-3cl ------ is STAYMAN.
INTERESTING--SO I ASSUME 2D RESPONSE =NO 4 CARD MAJOR.
scenario you hold as responder KQ10x--jxx--1098x-98 s/h/d/c so 3cl
can hold 1 major or 2 majors.
or 4/4/2/3 with same values hence 3cl
or 2/3/4/4 with same values hence 2d

so if responder has a 5 card suit minor wise and same values

I presume it goes 2cl 2d 2n/t 3nt amen

I didn't understand most of this post - probably a language thing. But if I saw "2cl-3cl ----- is stayman" in a profile I would assume he is trying to say in shorthand that 1N-2C is stayman and 2N-3C is stayman. I don't know if that affects the rest of the OP
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Posted 2011-July-07, 03:54

View Postpirate22, on 2011-July-07, 02:30, said:

ok clever dick deduct a minor card

There's no need for you to start calling names, you already behave enough like an idiot. You should be happy someone tried to decipher your post all the way to the end after starting your post with "2-3 is stayman", finding that interesting, and abusing the caps lock key.

Deducting a minor card is obvious, but a 4=4=1=4 is a much more interesting holding than a 4=4=2=3. Apparently I overrated your capabilities to realize that.

View Postpirate22, on 2011-July-07, 02:32, said:

ammended

Let me be an even more "clever dick" by pointing out that amended is written with only 1 'm'.

Edit: changed M to 'm' on helene's request.
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Posted 2011-July-07, 04:26

View PostFree, on 2011-July-07, 03:54, said:

Let me be an even more "clever dick" by pointing out that amended is written with only 1 M.

1 m, please. It is impolite to use caps.
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Posted 2011-July-07, 22:12

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I didn't understand most of this post - probably a language thing. But if I saw "2cl-3cl ----- is stayman" in a profile I would assume he is trying to say in shorthand that 1N-2C is stayman and 2N-3C is stayman. I don't know if that affects the rest of the OP

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Posted 2011-July-07, 22:25

The reason i posted this is-it definately stated 2cl-3cl = stayman.
i assume some form of relay comes into play-if responder has 1 major
e.g 2cl 3cl 3d now says i have hts-responder bids 3 spades,and
the 2clubber knows responders hand.
also assume 2cl-2d=zilch-then 2n/t must mean something, and can be passed
obviously what is the range of the 2cl opener...........
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Please "Free" never read anything of mine on the Forum,you are excused :):)
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Posted 2011-July-07, 23:36

View Postpirate22, on 2011-July-07, 22:25, said:

Please "Free" never read anything of mine on the Forum,you are excused :):)

I think everyone would like to be excused.
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Posted 2011-July-09, 17:16

View Postpirate22, on 2011-July-07, 02:30, said:

ok clever dick deduct a minor card


I would not reply the way Free replied, but the way you replied back you made him look like a saint and for some reason the software says i cant downvote you.

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