[Poky]

IMP. All vul.
Expert partner.

You have:
♠xxxx
♥x
♦Jxxxx
♣Jxx

pass pass 1♥ 1NT
pass 3NT 4♦ Dbl
pass pass Rdbl pass
???

[Phil]

Too bad I can't downvote anymore.

[Free]

Pass making +1

[mtvesuvius]

My partner must have been bidding 4♦ for a lead director, and now completing that picture with the redouble. Since we have a 4 card major that we forgot to mention, I think it's quite obvious that we should pull partner's redoubled 4 level contract that we have 5 card support for... To our 4 small spades. Majors are better than minors, right?

[manudude03]

I turn the cube again, wait wrong game (plus I suppose I can't re-redouble partnet)

[MrAce]

 Phil, on 2011-June-28, 12:18, said:

Too bad I can't downvote anymore.

U made my coffee spill in the truck I am #1 fan of your grumpy attitude Phil

[han]

Partner is probably an idiot, but if partner is not an idiot then I'd bid 4S. The only way this auction makes sense is if partner has both majors. Say you want to compete over 3NT and you hold both majors (for instance with a 5-7-1-0 shape), what would you do? Bidding a minor and then redoubling if this gets doubled seems like the only way to get spades into the picture.

Don't try this at home, or when playing with a sarcastic forum poster.

[pooltuna]

 han, on 2011-June-29, 06:25, said:

Partner is probably an idiot, but if partner is not an idiot then I'd bid 4S. The only way this auction makes sense is if partner has both majors. Say you want to compete over 3NT and you hold both majors (for instance with a 5-7-1-0 shape), what would you do? Bidding a minor and then redoubling if this gets doubled seems like the only way to get spades into the picture.

Don't try this at home, or when playing with a sarcastic forum poster.

yeah those damn sarcastic forum posters always come up with a red 2-suiter they want to know how to bid

[WellSpyder]

 pooltuna, on 2011-June-29, 08:10, said:

yeah those damn sarcastic forum posters always come up with a red 2-suiter they want to know how to bid

[sarcasm] One way to bid a red 2-suiter might be to bid 1♥ followed by 4♦ [/sarcasm]. But redouble???

[han]

 pooltuna, on 2011-June-29, 08:10, said:

yeah those damn sarcastic forum posters always come up with a red 2-suiter they want to know how to bid

What, I can't downvote any more pooltuna posts?

[cherdano]

 han, on 2011-June-29, 06:25, said:

Partner is probably an idiot, but if partner is not an idiot then I'd bid 4S. The only way this auction makes sense is if partner has both majors. Say you want to compete over 3NT and you hold both majors (for instance with a 5-7-1-0 shape), what would you do? Bidding a minor and then redoubling if this gets doubled seems like the only way to get spades into the picture.

Don't try this at home, or when playing with a sarcastic forum poster.

Or with a non-sarcastic partner who might raise your 4♦ bid to game.

[Tataie]

I presume he is smart and has 6+♥ and 5low quality♠.
Im on the 4♠boat.

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My partner must have been bidding 4♦ for a lead director, and now completing that picture with the redouble

You never complete the picture of a lead director bid with xx.He would go back in ♥himself.
If he would have ♦ he would pass 4♦x since we already made a preference on ♦over ♥ by passing x
There is no way in hell an expert should pass this xx.

[Phil]

About once a year I get a piece of paper shoved in my face with a hand and I'm given an auction which features a high level xx. The story usually ends by the presenter saying, WD, you get -2800 too. Then I hear how 'obvious' this sequence this and how it shows x y and z.

Bidding a 5710 by starting with 4♦ and then xxing is truly a master stroke. As a matter of fact making this call grants you automatic entry into the GHOF (Genius Hall of Fame).

I did consider that partner could have this hand but it also begs the question what would 4♣ followed by redouble mean? Or 4♣ followed by 4♦ then xx? I'd like Rexford to check in because he's very at deciphering these auctions from Mars.

By the way, this morning I just gave the hand to CLarsen and he pulled to 4♠ followed by "I'll never play with this #/@?* again".

So maybe this type of sequence is more common than I imagine. Sigh.

[jillybean]

These XX are not uncommon, I've just seen one at Timo's table.

CLarsen could have used 'BBO Expert' when he said "I'll never play with this #/@?* again".

[Poky]

I held:
♠KQJTx
♥AQTxxx
♦x
♣x
and felt that 4♦->XX was the right way to bid this hand, although I didn't do it.

And, of course, 4♣->XX if I had the 4-7 pattern.

[whereagles]

So, you think 1♥ + 4♦ + rdbl is the right way to bid a long major two-suiter?

You're nuts...

[nige1]

 han, on 2011-June-29, 06:25, said:

Partner is probably an idiot, but if partner is not an idiot then I'd bid 4S. The only way this auction makes sense is if partner has both majors. Say you want to compete over 3NT and you hold both majors (for instance with a 5-7-1-0 shape), what would you do? Bidding a minor and then redoubling if this gets doubled seems like the only way to get spades into the picture. Don't try this at home, or when playing with a sarcastic forum poster.

Agree with Han (about the meaning of the sequence).

 Poky, on 2011-July-04, 08:39, said:

I held: ♠ KQJTx ♥ AQTxxx ♦ x ♣ x
and felt that 4♦->XX was the right way to bid this hand, although I didn't do it.

Automatic

 whereagles, on 2011-July-04, 11:16, said:

So, you think 1♥ + 4♦ + rdbl is the right way to bid a long major two-suiter? You're nuts...

If the suits are of disparate length and quality, why not?. Poky didn't try it but to a sensible partner, this sequence is unambiguous.

[whereagles]

 nige1, on 2011-July-04, 12:16, said:

Agree with Han (about the meaning of the sequence). Automatic If the suits are of disparate length and quality, why not?. Poky didn't try it but to a sensible partner, this sequence is unambiguous.

Because... huh.. you might have diamonds???

You see, this sort of stuff is why I prefer to open 65s 1♠.

[olien]

Agree that the XX demands partner pick a major. And why would you open all of the 6-5s with 1♠. Now you bid 4♥ and partner is supposed to figure out to pass with equal length? I think 4♠ is auto after the XX, and I thank the opponents for doubling 4♦ after we make 4♠. That being said, I will enlighten pooltuna on how partner would have bid with ♥ + ♦. 1♥-....-4♦-(X)...PASS. The XX is clear SOS and expressing interest in the majors only.

[Cascade]

 Phil, on 2011-June-29, 22:27, said:

By the way, this morning I just gave the hand to CLarsen and he pulled to 4♠ followed by "I'll never play with this #/@?* again".

So maybe this type of sequence is more common than I imagine. Sigh.

Why does he have lots of ex-partners?