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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2011-May-20, 12:13



IMP NV You are playing sandwhich 1nt.
If you pass here, LHO op bids 2♣, pass to you.
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Posted 2011-May-20, 12:15

Pass then balance with a double. Ops don't have majors, ergo partner must.
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Posted 2011-May-20, 12:16

Seems like an obvious pass. Where are you going with this hand?
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Posted 2011-May-20, 12:36

I'm tempted to double now. I'm OK with pass and then double 2♣, but I know I'd double in the first opportunity.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2011-May-20, 14:19

Double.

Also, for reasons stated on these forums too many times already, I would suggest you drop Sandwich.
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Posted 2011-May-20, 18:58

Pass. 3-3 in the Ms does not look like a double to me.
I would not bid 1NT anyway. From where are my tricks coming? At worst I will be 3 down and the opps have nothing.
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Posted 2011-May-20, 19:18

PASS!PD has weak hand and more like balanced hand too,If u DBL where r u going with this 4333 16hcp hand?
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Posted 2011-May-20, 22:10

View Postmenggq, on 2011-May-20, 19:18, said:

PASS!PD has weak hand and more like balanced hand too,If u DBL where r u going with this 4333 16hcp hand?

There are lots of reasons to balance

Ops have passed out weakly at 2♣, without even an invite; hence partner is marked with a bit of values, perhaps 3-6 points.
Neither op bid a major; hence partner is likely to have a five card major, and will have a four card major almost 100% of the time.
By my initial pass, partner can infer that I have at most 7 cards in the majors; hence he will not go too high.
The prime values in my hand give us a decent chance to go plus, either by declaring 2 of a major, or defending 3 of a minor. But defending 2 of a minor is probably a minus score.

Once when I was fairly new to the game, I went to ask one of the club experts an opening lead question. I started with "I'm on lead vs. 2♣ holding ..." The expert interrupted me and said, "you should never be on lead against 2♣". Never might be an exaggeration, but I don't think this hand is the exception to the rule.
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Posted 2011-May-21, 06:38

View Postbillw55, on 2011-May-20, 22:10, said:

Once when I was fairly new to the game, I went to ask one of the club experts an opening lead question. I started with "I'm on lead vs. 2♣ holding ..." The expert interrupted me and said, "you should never be on lead against 2♣". Never might be an exaggeration, but I don't think this hand is the exception to the rule.


hehe :) and this is correct, unless perhaps it's IMPs and you're vul.

So, for the given hand, pass initially since you don't have both majors, then double and let partner pick his major and hopefully score up 110.

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Posted 2011-May-21, 10:58

Let's first agree not to have a way to bid strong balanced hands, and then discuss what to do with strong balanced hands...
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-May-21, 11:11

View Posthan, on 2011-May-21, 10:58, said:

Let's first agree not to have a way to bid strong balanced hands, and then discuss what to do with strong balanced hands...

I play my partners card but we'll talk.
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