If I opt not to have a sub, and have permission to leave the tournament, the director can get two subs to fill in the empty seats. I can see where that can be a problem though on a day where there are a lot of bad connections. You might not be responding to me, or we might not be on the same wavelength...
Right or Wrong thing to do? Subbing back in disconnected players.
#41
Posted 2004-October-04, 05:16
Sceptic, if your response is to me, yes I know what opening a can of worms is
What I don't know or understand is what you are trying to say in your post 
If I opt not to have a sub, and have permission to leave the tournament, the director can get two subs to fill in the empty seats. I can see where that can be a problem though on a day where there are a lot of bad connections. You might not be responding to me, or we might not be on the same wavelength...
If I opt not to have a sub, and have permission to leave the tournament, the director can get two subs to fill in the empty seats. I can see where that can be a problem though on a day where there are a lot of bad connections. You might not be responding to me, or we might not be on the same wavelength...
#43
Posted 2004-October-04, 18:47
My policy is simple for Fishy... time permitting I ask sub if they are willing to let original partner back in providing that original return in timely fashion and sub agree.
There are times when I will NOT return original - like if they boot more than 1 time then sub is staying.
I do make every effort to immediately sub gracious sub back into game.
In ACBLs where it is pay tournament our policy is very clear cut
Remaining parter can wait for 3 min and during this time they can pick own sub. After 3 min then TD can sub at will. Original partner gets seat back if they return within 2 boards/15 mins. We politely thank sub and replace original since they pay to play in this tournament. But we only replace back 1 time per tournament.
There are times when I will NOT return original - like if they boot more than 1 time then sub is staying.
I do make every effort to immediately sub gracious sub back into game.
In ACBLs where it is pay tournament our policy is very clear cut
Remaining parter can wait for 3 min and during this time they can pick own sub. After 3 min then TD can sub at will. Original partner gets seat back if they return within 2 boards/15 mins. We politely thank sub and replace original since they pay to play in this tournament. But we only replace back 1 time per tournament.
Gweny :-)
#44
Posted 2004-October-05, 09:22
Please consider this:
You are playing a wvery difficult Contract/Defence when one off the Opps disconnects,
you wait a moment and no problem
you wait a little longer, are you sure you still remember all tricks
you wait even longer, do you still remember your game plan and everything you figuerd out?
Waiting is highly unfair against the opps. They have to play faster to catch up the time.
I don't mind i make my mistakes fast, but there are players that actually play better if they have time to think.
There are no subs in real life bridge, because players usually don't run that often.
The software should be changen in the following way:
1) If a player disconnects, the boards should be canceled after 1 minute
the result wont be fair even with a sub, who doesnot know what happend. and the distortion to opps is not acceptable.
2) The timeout period, until a player gets fully red, must be much shorter in
tourneys. Players can sub their p themselves than.
3) If the remaining time in a round is too small to have the innocent side play the board under regular conditions the next board shoud be cancelt.
4) If a player does not sub his missing Partner within 5 minutes, he should be dismissed automatically.
You are playing a wvery difficult Contract/Defence when one off the Opps disconnects,
you wait a moment and no problem
you wait a little longer, are you sure you still remember all tricks
you wait even longer, do you still remember your game plan and everything you figuerd out?
Waiting is highly unfair against the opps. They have to play faster to catch up the time.
I don't mind i make my mistakes fast, but there are players that actually play better if they have time to think.
There are no subs in real life bridge, because players usually don't run that often.
The software should be changen in the following way:
1) If a player disconnects, the boards should be canceled after 1 minute
the result wont be fair even with a sub, who doesnot know what happend. and the distortion to opps is not acceptable.
2) The timeout period, until a player gets fully red, must be much shorter in
tourneys. Players can sub their p themselves than.
3) If the remaining time in a round is too small to have the innocent side play the board under regular conditions the next board shoud be cancelt.
4) If a player does not sub his missing Partner within 5 minutes, he should be dismissed automatically.

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