[gnasher]

Fluffy, on 2011-May-10, 09:07, said:

A language question: I think its the first time I see "overcall" used for a bid made in the balancing position, I though overcall was meant to be on direct sit, is it correct on both positions?

The term "overcall" includes balancing actions too. You can distinguish the two using "direct overcall" and ""balancing overcall" (or "protective overcall" in English English).

Logically they'd be called "overcall" and "undercall" respectively, but English isn't logical, and bridge teminology is especially illogical.

[whereagles]

Undercall?? I'd say that from an insufficient bid, but then again, I'm not a native speaker

[jillybean]

whereagles, on 2011-May-10, 13:45, said:

It is widely accepted that responses to a balancing double go up 2-3 hcp with respect to the responses to a direct dbl. E.g. if

1x dbl pass 1NT

shows, say 7-10, then

1x pass pass dbl
pass 1NT

shows 9-12 or thereabouts. Just what you have.

How do you respond with 0-8 hcp? This makes 1N stronger than 2x.

[gwnn]

jillybean, on 2011-May-10, 17:42, said:

How do you respond with 0-8 hcp? This makes 1N stronger than 2x.

Jilly, this is the same for 1x-dbl-p-1NT. 1NT shows values as a response to a takeout double. In the case of direct seat double, it's about 8-10, here it's about 9-12. Some people like other ranges, but these are most typical.

[Lurpoa]

ArtK78, on 2011-May-10, 07:50, said:

I agree, and I wonder why no one else mentioned 2♦.

The simple way of looking at this - partner made a takeout double; my longest suit is diamonds, so I bid diamonds.

It is a slight underbid, but partner is balancing, and does not promise the usual strength for a takeout double.

2♦ can be very weak.
With that ha

[Lurpoa]

ArtK78, on 2011-May-10, 07:50, said:

I agree, and I wonder why no one else mentioned 2♦.

The simple way of looking at this - partner made a takeout double; my longest suit is diamonds, so I bid diamonds.

It is a slight underbid, but partner is balancing, and does not promise the usual strength for a takeout double.

2♦ can be very weak, and partner with 14H will pass.
With that hand, you want to show partner, you have some values.....

That is whole dilemma of this hand, and I guess, that is why this treath was started.

[ArtK78]

Lurpoa, on 2011-May-11, 03:55, said:

2♦ can be very weak.
With that ha

When partner balances, he expects that you have some values based on the fact that the opponents stopped bidding.

Your hand should not be very weak. Yes, 2♦ is an underbid, but everything else is an overbid.

[menggq]

i prefer 2♠ but hv a little worry since pd might make banlance DBL.

[jmcw]

1NT the alternatives do not appeal

[jillybean]

gwnn, on 2011-May-10, 18:06, said:

Jilly, this is the same for 1x-dbl-p-1NT. 1NT shows values as a response to a takeout double. In the case of direct seat double, it's about 8-10, here it's about 9-12. Some people like other ranges, but these are most typical.

Ok. Humour me, what do you bid with Kxxx,xxx,xxx,Qxx after (1♠) P (P) X (P)?

[aguahombre]

jillybean, on 2011-May-11, 10:31, said:

Ok. Humour me, what do you bid with Kxxx,xxx,xxx,Qxx after (1♠) P (P) X (P)?

Same thing I would do if pard had doubled in the direct seat, take it out to 2C --cheap and doesn't show any values.

[gwnn]

jillybean, on 2011-May-11, 10:31, said:

Ok. Humour me, what do you bid with Kxxx,xxx,xxx,Qxx after (1♠) P (P) X (P)?

Yes, 2♣. Same as aguahombre above.