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How would you bid my hand?

#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2011-May-09, 08:35

The other night playing online with few agreements I held:

AJTxxx...x...Kx...Kxxx imps


1C=(x)=xx(me)=p
p=(1d)=1s=p
2d=p=3d=p
3h=p=3s=p
5s=p=6c=p
pass..

Would you change any of my bids?
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Posted 2011-May-09, 08:47

View Postmike777, on 2011-May-09, 08:35, said:

The other night playing online with few agreements I held:

AJTxxx...x...Kx...Kxxx imps


1C=(x)=xx(me)=p
p=(1d)=1s=p
2d=p=3d=p
3h=p=3s=p
5s=p=6c=p
pass..

Would you change any of my bids?


Yes. Even in a pick up partnership, I wouldn't redouble with a club fit and a 6 card Spade suit.

Playing opposite someone I though was "good", I'd bid 2 even absent an explicit agreement regarding fit showing jumps.
Playing against some random individual, I'd start with 1

I also don't like your 3 bid.
What its this supposed to achieve

I don't think that partner's 5 is suggesting a different strain, so I don't understand 6
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Posted 2011-May-09, 08:49

Assuming 2 shows support I dont like 3, I would bid 2
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Posted 2011-May-09, 09:11

Did we just agree on spades and wind up in clubs?

Partner can open, passes over the redouble, then bids opps suit? He must have spades, right? Assuming I understood all that, I agree with the others in that I really hate 3.

My guess would be that 3 denied a stopper for 3NT, and neither partner knew what the MHO was saying after that.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2011-May-09, 09:29

I would not redouble, so the auction would never get past your first bid. I would bid 1.
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Posted 2011-May-09, 09:43

Rdbl should show a hand with values, but nothing more descriptive to bid. Six-card major and a clubfit is not suitable for Rdbl. This is a clear 1S response, which is forcing for 1 round so there is no danger of any sort in describing your hand.
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Posted 2011-May-09, 09:51

ok thanks for the feedback

pard's hand was KQx..AKxx...Jx...AJxx

at the other table our tm played in 5hx vul down 7 as rho had a wild two suiter in h and d.
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Posted 2011-May-09, 10:22

View Postpeachy, on 2011-May-09, 09:43, said:

Rdbl should show a hand with values, but nothing more descriptive to bid.


This is a great summary of the concept that one should not let an action by the opponents which took up no bidding room cause your side to waste its own bidding room.

IMO, there are two hand types which should redouble. These are hands which otherwise would have been awkward to describe conveniently without the intervening double.

One is the invite+ hand with only four-card support for the minor and no 4-card major. 2NT over the double can be freed to guarantee 5 of the minor for pard and strength.

The other hand type is the G.F one-suiter (any of the other 3 suits). This hand would have to go through gadgets to get there without the double; and perhaps the opps will make it even harder with more competition. But, after the redouble, if you then bid that suit you are already there. The OP hand is not one of those. It has good club support, the spades are not strong enough, and the overall strength of the hand is not good enough.

A possible third situation where a redouble is helpful would be when the opening was 1D and responder has G.F. with 4M and 5+clubs, since 2C directly over the double is different than 2C/1D without the double.
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Posted 2011-May-09, 13:21

Given that your teammates when for 2000, I like your 6 contract. :)

Of course, given that the A is likely to be onside, 6 may make more often than 6. The clubs may be 4-1 or 5-0.

There were very few bids in your auction that I liked after the opening bid. But that has already been said. Turns out that, given the result at the other table, you were just bidding for fun.
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