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Would you bid 2♥ or negative double.
If you bid 2 ♥ should West bid 2♠ or 2NT or something else?
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2 Hearts or negative double ACBL
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Posted 2011-April-26, 13:46
Would you bid 2♥ or negative double.
If you bid 2 ♥ should West bid 2♠ or 2NT or something else?
Opinions welcomed
Thank you
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Posted 2011-April-26, 16:17
Dbl seems better than 2♥. To see this, imagine RHO raises to 3♣...
If you decide to bid 2♥ anyway, opener can, and perhaps should, bid 2♠.
If you decide to bid 2♥ anyway, opener can, and perhaps should, bid 2♠.
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Posted 2011-April-26, 17:44
To decide, ask yourself if you are worth two bids.
No? Then double over 2♣, and pass over 3♣ (assuming partner does not bid). This will show eight of your cards, as opposed to 2♥ then pass which will show only five.
Yes? Then bid 2♥ and double over 3♣ (assuming partner does not bid). This will show nine(eleven - if you count the probable tolerance for diamonds) of your cards, as opposed to doublng and doubling again, which will show only eight(ten).
If you bid 2♥, West should bid 2NT, because he has no extra values. If East has extra values, he will bid 3♠. If East does not have extra values but has four spades as well as his five hearts, he should have doubled the first time.
No? Then double over 2♣, and pass over 3♣ (assuming partner does not bid). This will show eight of your cards, as opposed to 2♥ then pass which will show only five.
Yes? Then bid 2♥ and double over 3♣ (assuming partner does not bid). This will show nine(eleven - if you count the probable tolerance for diamonds) of your cards, as opposed to doublng and doubling again, which will show only eight(ten).
If you bid 2♥, West should bid 2NT, because he has no extra values. If East has extra values, he will bid 3♠. If East does not have extra values but has four spades as well as his five hearts, he should have doubled the first time.
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Posted 2011-April-27, 05:38
dickiegera, on 2011-April-26, 13:46, said:
Would you bid 2♥ or negative double.
If you bid 2 ♥ should West bid 2♠ or 2NT or something else?
Opinions welcomed
Thank you
♣QJ seem to be of little value here.....
I would go for a X.
on partner's response:
2♦: 2♥ inviting
2♥; 3♥ inviting
2♠! 3♠ inviting
2NT: 3♥ forcing
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Posted 2011-April-27, 16:42
2♥ is obvious. I have 5 hearts and 10+ pts, AND opener gets a chance to bid spades if they have them? Not worried about my ♣QJ since partner is allowed to have cards in that suit too!
If spades and hearts were reversed I think it's a slightly better question since it's no longer as easy for opener to introduce the other major.
If spades and hearts were reversed I think it's a slightly better question since it's no longer as easy for opener to introduce the other major.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-April-27, 21:45
I would bid 2 hearts, even though QJ of ♣ isn't so great. Either ♦KJ are pulling their weight or we have a major fit. I think I'm worth two bids here.
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Posted 2011-April-28, 00:38
For all those that bid ♥ - let me ask you:
holding ♠ KQxx, ♥KJxxx, ♦x, ♣Kxx you and RHO opened ♦, you double or bid hearts?
The purpose is not to show 5 cards, the purpose is to find a fit and see if we can compete, in any suit.... especially holding both majors. So on this hand you have support for both, and effectively you have 10 HCP - seems an obvious X to me.
holding ♠ KQxx, ♥KJxxx, ♦x, ♣Kxx you and RHO opened ♦, you double or bid hearts?
The purpose is not to show 5 cards, the purpose is to find a fit and see if we can compete, in any suit.... especially holding both majors. So on this hand you have support for both, and effectively you have 10 HCP - seems an obvious X to me.
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