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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2011-October-19, 13:25



What is partner doing, & what sort of hand do you expect for this auction? Your follow-up?
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Posted 2011-October-19, 13:29

i'd expect a "good" 4H with club suit. i'll go slaming, probably via 4D cue, 4H part, 4NT KC for hearts
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Posted 2011-October-19, 13:46

he probably has K AQxxx and AK outside only problem would be that he has A and K, or AK, bid 4 now to at least cope with AK wich is the worst.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 13:59

What's your agreement on super-acceptances?
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Posted 2011-October-19, 14:14

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-October-19, 13:59, said:

What's your agreement on super-acceptances?


Requires 4 hearts & a max. This is a casual partnership, which plays 5-6 times a year.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 14:46

p was probably just short of a super accept and is taking
a no risk way of letting you know slam might still be possible.

I agree with suggestion to follow up with 4d cue bid BUT if P
suddenly now signs off in 4h I will pass because they probably
realize the only way I could cue bid 4d was via shortness and their
stauch looking dia honors are suddenly a duplication that bodes ill
for slam
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Posted 2011-October-19, 15:15

Some of these answers seems too restrictive to me, except that by gszes.

Partner has a three-card super-accept and is cuebidding for you.

Now, for my part, I kind of like an approach where minor calls here show two of the top three honors, meaning A-Q contextually, but Ace is fine. He has a max and the club Ace.

You have interest, the club Ace looks nice, but you lack a spade control. So, 4 seems right.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 15:15

Presumably you agreed with partner not to bid 3C after the transfer with an unbalance hand unless you were slammish; otherwise you would have done so, lest they run a wide open bunch of diamonds against 3NT.

With this in mind, he could have a couple of different non-supers: slammish with only 3 trumps and a trick source in clubs (for which you have a big surprise), or maybe a 6-bagger in clubs worried about 3NT but willing to settle in the 5-2 heart strain.

I, also, would bid the 4D control cue ---not confident that it shows shortness--- and follow up with 5C to play or to deny spade control; that caters to whatever he was doing, I hope.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 15:31

Over a 4 cue, partner leaps to 5. Interpretation of this auction?
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Posted 2011-October-19, 17:48

When does responder show D-short?
This may be key to partner seeing no/lots
of duplication. Even swaying a slam try/not decision.
My partnership shows short after first responses to 1NT.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 18:15

For North:4 strange bidding.i wd bid 4 or Pass 3N,no any others choices.Maybe North cue bid 4 showed 4 FIT and A/K slam try.
For South:Why bid 3N instead of 3?13hcp 5431 not bad hand.If FIT / might hv small slam,why gived up?
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Posted 2011-October-19, 18:32

View PostCSGibson, on 2011-October-19, 15:31, said:

Over a 4 cue, partner leaps to 5. Interpretation of this auction?

Seems as if he isolated the fact that we are off the AK of spades. if he has XXX KJX AX AQJXX, can we sign off in 5N to avoid a possible spade ruff?
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Posted 2011-October-19, 19:00

View PostCSGibson, on 2011-October-19, 15:31, said:

Over a 4 cue, partner leaps to 5. Interpretation of this auction?


Sounds as if partner is looking for a second-round spade control. I would pass and hope we are not too high already!
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Posted 2011-October-19, 19:52

View PostCSGibson, on 2011-October-19, 15:31, said:

Over a 4 cue, partner leaps to 5. Interpretation of this auction?


The first part was easy and needs no real interpretation or understanding.

5, however, is a strange, and some understanding of style would help.

If 4 was taken as Last Train, which is plausible, one would normally expect either cues or RKCB. If cues are Aces-first, then I suppose partner has no more Aces but continuing slam interest, which seems to imply all available Kings.

It is possible that the style is such that partner is immediate answering, but that seems rather esoteric. Two without the Queen fits, though, giving him a spade control, the heart King (likely), and the known club Ace, but not the spade Ace (King instead). But, this is rather esoteric, again, without some sort of partnership understanding.

The bottom line, though, is that I cannot fathom a hand where he has one of the pointed Aces for this call.

The only weird exception is if I were playing with a few odd birds who whip out "wrap around cues," where 5 would essentially show everything possible, meaning all three side Aces and the heart King, but those folks are weird.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 21:07

Partner has H support and is making a cue. I really dislike the 3NT bid by the way and would have bid 3C.
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Posted 2011-October-20, 05:34

View Postthe hog, on 2011-October-19, 21:07, said:

Partner has H support and is making a cue. I really dislike the 3NT bid by the way and would have bid 3C.


We are agreeing way too often, but I also agree that 3NT is absurdly sick. 3 gains in finding heart fits earlier, club slams, and even possible 3-5 spade fits.
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Posted 2011-October-20, 07:33

I had this auction before, it was a max with a running 5 card and support. slam was on because we had 5+5+2 side suit tricks.

Hard to say if that's possible here since we hold the K ourselves.
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Posted 2011-October-20, 08:27

5? he could bid 5 and 5 to ask for spade control, so this should be a slam general invitation and I accept with 6
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Posted 2011-October-20, 10:06

View PostCSGibson, on 2011-October-19, 13:25, said:



What is partner doing, & what sort of hand do you expect for this auction? Your follow-up?

It shows a hand willing to play in 4 and is a qbid in support of [CAVEAT if you are playing with a PUP this might be (ugh, shudder) Gerber]
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Posted 2011-October-20, 10:10

View PostCSGibson, on 2011-October-19, 15:31, said:

Over a 4 cue, partner leaps to 5. Interpretation of this auction?

I don't have a control but if you do I am willing to slam
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