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K AKQTXXX KX AKX -- your bid over 3C?

#1 User is offline   akhare 

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Posted 2011-April-04, 00:37

IMPs, vul. vs. NV (of course), RHO opens 3.

1) Would a direct 4 show this hand in your methods?
2) If not, what would X and then 4/5 show?
3) What will you bid if they bid 4/5 over the X?
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Posted 2011-April-04, 01:28

#1 No
#2 Such a hand
#3 4H / 5H

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Posted 2011-April-04, 02:46

1. No.

2. A more flexible hand.

3. Double? I would have bid 4H of course.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 02:59

This is right on the border of bidding 5. If K was an ace, I'd do that. Now I guess I have to do with heavy 4.
X would say that I'm not certain where to play this hand (so more flexible). Here I know I want to play this hand in hearts so it's out of question. I'd be horrified when it continued X (5) 5.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 05:45

What's my ace-ask? 2xA =grand; 1xA =6H; 0xA =5H.
Further jamming and hope partner can D0P1.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 08:44

1.) It would be weaker
2.) This hand altho you may want to call 6
3) 6
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Posted 2011-April-04, 08:45

1) No, it's to strong. I bid 4 on much weaker hands. (Say xx/AKQ10xxx/xx/AK.)
2) I never start with a double when I have only one suit to play in. Doubling and bidding hearts would show a flexibel hand. 3-6-3-1 is one of many possibileties.
If I had an ace-ask, it would be an obvious choice. Alas I don't, so I bid 5.

3) If I had somehow brought myself into this, I'd bid 5 and prey partner passed. Since he is short in clubs, a 2-3 hearts (or more) is reasonable to expect.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 09:21

This hand is way too strong for 4. 4N is an ace ask for me and that's what I bid.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 14:38

View Posthan, on 2011-April-04, 02:46, said:

1. No.

2. A more flexible hand.

3. Double? I would have bid 4H of course.


Please explain answers 1 and 3
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Posted 2011-April-04, 14:42

What else can 4 NT be ? 4D would be leaping michaels, 4 or 4 strong, 4 majors, that leaves 4 NT for aces, no ?

Unless someone convince me this 4 NT is something else, i am bidding 4 NT for aces.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 21:41

for me 4H is a sound 9 tricks and partner will never pass with 2A. So here 4H will miss slam when partner got 1A and 1Q in almost any suit (SA and DQ or SAQ are exsceptions) also we might play 6H instead of 7 if hes got 2A. 4nt looks better than 4H to me evenn if there is no guarantee.
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Posted 2011-April-04, 23:03

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2011-April-04, 14:38, said:

Please explain answers 1 and 3



Really? Sometimes in bridge, you cannot show your exact hand when they preempt and you must make do with bidding game because going beyond that is too risky. It's like a bidding problem where they open 3S, and you have a balanced 23 count. Does 3N show your hand? No. Do you bid 3N? Yes.

(note I think 4H is a bad bid with this hand but there is definitely no disconnect in han's 1 and 3 answers).
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Posted 2011-April-05, 04:55

That was indeed how I intended my answers.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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