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Posted 2011-March-25, 21:07


1NT is 15-17. Assuming that you are going to place the contract in four spades, and assuming that you can do this either by bidding it yourself or by using a transfer so that partner will be declarer, which will you do?

This is not a chauvinistic question: you may assume that partner plays them exactly as well or as badly as you.
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Posted 2011-March-25, 21:30

For me as a nonxexpert


4h texas=weak so 4h it is



2h and then 4s=mild slam try.

What is mild is debate. :)

But much more than this.
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Posted 2011-March-25, 21:49

View Postmike777, on 2011-March-25, 21:30, said:

For me as a nonxexpert

4h texas=weak so 4h it is

2h and then 4s=mild slam try.

What is mild is debate. :)

But much more than this.

Oh, you do not intend to try for a slam - even you couldn't make one of those, let alone partner.

But there are certain dangers involved in bidding hearts...
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Posted 2011-March-25, 21:54

What if we play South African transfers?
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Posted 2011-March-26, 02:49

View Postdburn, on 2011-March-25, 21:07, said:


1NT is 15-17. Assuming that you are going to place the contract in four spades, and assuming that you can do this either by bidding it yourself or by using a transfer so that partner will be declarer, which will you do?

This is not a chauvinistic question: you may assume that partner plays them exactly as well or as badly as you.


I'd presumably bid 4 as a SA transfer to spades as I don't really have lead values. This well thought out plan may go badly if one opponent doubles and they find a good 5 sac as a result. But that rarely happens. :)
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Posted 2011-March-26, 03:46

I assume the options are 2H - 2S - 4S and an immediate jump to 4S, 'cos we're English and those are commonly the two ways of bidding game in this auction.

I will jump to 4S. Not so much because I'm scared of a double of 2H, but also because it's not obvious we'll be better off with the lead coming round to partner, and there are often advantages to having the distributional hand concealed.

p.s. opposite someone who says they play 15-17 but opens a lot of 14s it's not so obvious this is a game force at all forms of scoring. But that's a different question.
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Posted 2011-March-26, 11:32

I'd bid 4, since I'd like to have the distributional hand unseen. Also, Jxx is a nice positional value.
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Posted 2011-March-26, 12:45

View Postmatmat, on 2011-March-25, 21:54, said:

What if we play South African transfers?


At least in England, SAT traditionally show a slam try and partner is allowed to go past 4M.
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Posted 2011-March-26, 12:55

View Postdburn, on 2011-March-25, 21:07, said:


1NT is 15-17. Assuming that you are going to place the contract in four spades, and assuming that you can do this either by bidding it yourself or by using a transfer so that partner will be declarer, which will you do?

This is not a chauvinistic question: you may assume that partner plays them exactly as well or as badly as you.


In answer to your question, Yes I play tenace! Unfortunately I don't have any but partner rates to have a lot!! 4!!! for me.
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Posted 2011-March-26, 12:58

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2011-March-26, 11:32, said:

I'd bid 4, since I'd like to have the distributional hand unseen. Also, Jxx is a nice positional value.



BBBB...you really have to be digging deep to point out the positional value of Jxx!!! The beginning WORD? Yep you guessed all 4 digits on your first shot...what a mastermind !! :D
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