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Posted 2011-March-20, 17:20

AKQJ2...T9....Q.....AKJ92


1s=1nt
3c=3d
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Posted 2011-March-20, 17:56

3H I guess. I hope this asks for a stopper.
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Posted 2011-March-20, 23:38

I agree 3♥ and think this is a probe for nt often showing a half stop. Which T9 is almost.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 14:52

ok in the vandy
one table rebid 3s and the other rebid 4c.
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I wondered which the forums might prefer.
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Posted 2011-March-22, 12:53

View Postmike777, on 2011-March-21, 14:52, said:

ok in the vandy
one table rebid 3s and the other rebid 4c.
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I wondered which the forums might prefer.


What was Responder's hand ?
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Posted 2011-March-22, 12:58

I dont remember the exact hand but this should be close:


xx..xx....ATxxxx...QTx



the 3s bidder got to 4s which makes
4c bidder played in 5c which went down due to very extreme breaks.
I think spades were 5-1.
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Posted 2011-March-22, 18:03

View Postmike777, on 2011-March-22, 12:58, said:

I dont remember the exact hand but this should be close:


xx..xx....ATxxxx...QTx



the 3s bidder got to 4s which makes
4c bidder played in 5c which went down due to very extreme breaks.
I think spades were 5-1.

This Responder hand is a minimum, not the worst minimum because of the nice ♣ fillers.

The correct rebid with this minimum is 3S = minimum with as little as 2 card ♠ support.

With limit raise values and 3 card support, the correct bid is 4S = a hand that would have jumped to 3S over limiting rebid by opener ( say 2C ) ..... in the 2/1 GF context .

However, I don't fault the 3D rebid showing stop(s) and needing stop(s) in ♥ for a NT game --- those ♣ more than likely will roll in.
But when Opener rebids 3H, it's time to show the 2 card support with 3S.
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Posted 2011-March-22, 18:39

4C seems normal
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Posted 2011-March-22, 18:42

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-March-22, 18:03, said:


The correct rebid with this minimum is 3S = minimum with as little as 2 card ♠ support.



The full hand is here (Board 4). Steve Weinstein is one of the Bridgewinners people, I expect that if you post a comment there to let him know the correct rebid he will appreciate it.
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Posted 2011-March-22, 20:29

View Post655321, on 2011-March-22, 18:42, said:

The full hand is here (Board 4). Steve Weinstein is one of the Bridgewinners people, I expect that if you post a comment there to let him know the correct rebid he will appreciate it.

Where's Justin when I need him....

Note his quote below my name ! !
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Posted 2011-March-22, 20:36

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-March-22, 20:29, said:

Where's Justin when I need him....

Note his quote below my name ! !


He made that statement for the 1M - 1NTF, 3m ..... auctions
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